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Dumbarton Athletic F.C.
Dumbarton Athletic Football Club was an association football club based in the town of Dumbarton, in Scotland.
The club was founded in 1881. The club was a club of young players; club president (and right-winger) Archibald Little, a shipyard clerk, was still in his teens on foundation, and the club's star players, apprentice shipbuilder Alex Latta, and Geordie Dewar, were in their mid-teens when making their club debuts. Given another star player (James Coleman) was a ship's riveter, and that members of the Denny family had honorary positions on the club's committee, it is likely that the club's origin was in the Denny shipbuilding yard.
The Athletics were a fast-rising side and in 1884 entered the Scottish Cup for the first time. The club was not expected to beat King's Park in the second round (having had a bye in the first) but "surprised the most sanguine expectations of its friends" with a 3–1 victory. The club's first Cup run ended in the fifth round with a 4–1 home defeat to Cambuslang, the Athletics having one goal disallowed and having hit the bar with the game scoreless. The Athletics' protest that the Cambuslang goalkeeper was "not in uniform" was dismissed.
The same season, the club also entered the Dumbartonshire Cup for the first time, and reached the semi-final. The club lost 2–0 to Vale of Leven on the day, but amidst such controversy that the referee (Mr M'Houl of Renton) "was only got safely off the field by the timely intervention of the secretary of the Athletic Club". The Athletics protested on seven grounds, two of which were considered by the Dumbarton FA grounds; firstly, that the Vale had been awarded a goal which was palpably offside, but which the referee mistakenly allowed because he did not know that the offside law applied from a free-kick; secondly, that the Athletics had been wrongly denied a goal, when they scored a goal after a Vale foul, but the free-kick had not been awarded, therefore advantage should have applied. The Dumbartonshire FA agreed that one Vale goal should be chalked off, but, after four hours of discussion which was "not free of bitter feeling", the Athletics were not awarded their goal, on the basis that the Athletics umpire had appealed for the foul before the ball went into the goal, so the Vale was put through as 1–0 winners.
The regional nature of the Scottish Cup draw was unfortunate for the Athletics, as every final from 1881 to 1888 featured one of the three main Dunbartonshire clubs (Renton, Vale of Leven, and Dumbarton), all of whom were heavily backed by local factories. The club entered the Scottish Cup four more times, and every time was knocked out by Renton. In 1887–88, the club protested against the Renton boots, which had bars rather than studs, and the ill-feeling as a result of this protest, which included allegations that the boots examined by the Scottish Football Association were not the same boots as used in the match, led to Renton cancelling all friendlies with the Athletics.
The club's best run in the competition was its final run, in 1888–89, in which it reached the quarter-finals; during this run, the club gained its biggest competitive win, 15–0 over Dumbarton Union, and its most prominent win, 4–2 over the Vale of Leven, in front of over 3,000 spectators at St James' Park. The tie with Renton - the Athletics' last-ever Cup match - was particularly hard lines; Lindsay, who started the match "wholly covered with bandages", went off injured after 15 minutes, but, despite playing with 10 men for most of the match, Athletics only lost 2–1, with the second Renton goal being an own goal.
The club at least could avoid Renton in the Dumbartonshire Cup, as the Dark Blues did not play in the competition for much of the 1880s owing to a dispute with the local FA. However, as the third best remaining side in the county, it still had to cope with the two bigger clubs. The club reached the final twice. In 1885–86, "the young Athletic" beat Dumbarton in the semi-final "to great surprise", and then were 5 minutes away from beating Vale of Leven in the final, until the Vale forced an equalizer from a scrimmage. The replay at Renton's Tontine Park attracted 4,000 spectators, but, despite having the better of the game, the Athletics went down 2–1.
The club's second final was in 1888–89, losing to Dumbarton 6–2 in a game noted for its good spirits. The Athletics also reached the final of the prestigious Dumbarton FA Tournament in 1886–87, held before the start of the season, again losing to Dumbarton.
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Dumbarton Athletic F.C.
Dumbarton Athletic Football Club was an association football club based in the town of Dumbarton, in Scotland.
The club was founded in 1881. The club was a club of young players; club president (and right-winger) Archibald Little, a shipyard clerk, was still in his teens on foundation, and the club's star players, apprentice shipbuilder Alex Latta, and Geordie Dewar, were in their mid-teens when making their club debuts. Given another star player (James Coleman) was a ship's riveter, and that members of the Denny family had honorary positions on the club's committee, it is likely that the club's origin was in the Denny shipbuilding yard.
The Athletics were a fast-rising side and in 1884 entered the Scottish Cup for the first time. The club was not expected to beat King's Park in the second round (having had a bye in the first) but "surprised the most sanguine expectations of its friends" with a 3–1 victory. The club's first Cup run ended in the fifth round with a 4–1 home defeat to Cambuslang, the Athletics having one goal disallowed and having hit the bar with the game scoreless. The Athletics' protest that the Cambuslang goalkeeper was "not in uniform" was dismissed.
The same season, the club also entered the Dumbartonshire Cup for the first time, and reached the semi-final. The club lost 2–0 to Vale of Leven on the day, but amidst such controversy that the referee (Mr M'Houl of Renton) "was only got safely off the field by the timely intervention of the secretary of the Athletic Club". The Athletics protested on seven grounds, two of which were considered by the Dumbarton FA grounds; firstly, that the Vale had been awarded a goal which was palpably offside, but which the referee mistakenly allowed because he did not know that the offside law applied from a free-kick; secondly, that the Athletics had been wrongly denied a goal, when they scored a goal after a Vale foul, but the free-kick had not been awarded, therefore advantage should have applied. The Dumbartonshire FA agreed that one Vale goal should be chalked off, but, after four hours of discussion which was "not free of bitter feeling", the Athletics were not awarded their goal, on the basis that the Athletics umpire had appealed for the foul before the ball went into the goal, so the Vale was put through as 1–0 winners.
The regional nature of the Scottish Cup draw was unfortunate for the Athletics, as every final from 1881 to 1888 featured one of the three main Dunbartonshire clubs (Renton, Vale of Leven, and Dumbarton), all of whom were heavily backed by local factories. The club entered the Scottish Cup four more times, and every time was knocked out by Renton. In 1887–88, the club protested against the Renton boots, which had bars rather than studs, and the ill-feeling as a result of this protest, which included allegations that the boots examined by the Scottish Football Association were not the same boots as used in the match, led to Renton cancelling all friendlies with the Athletics.
The club's best run in the competition was its final run, in 1888–89, in which it reached the quarter-finals; during this run, the club gained its biggest competitive win, 15–0 over Dumbarton Union, and its most prominent win, 4–2 over the Vale of Leven, in front of over 3,000 spectators at St James' Park. The tie with Renton - the Athletics' last-ever Cup match - was particularly hard lines; Lindsay, who started the match "wholly covered with bandages", went off injured after 15 minutes, but, despite playing with 10 men for most of the match, Athletics only lost 2–1, with the second Renton goal being an own goal.
The club at least could avoid Renton in the Dumbartonshire Cup, as the Dark Blues did not play in the competition for much of the 1880s owing to a dispute with the local FA. However, as the third best remaining side in the county, it still had to cope with the two bigger clubs. The club reached the final twice. In 1885–86, "the young Athletic" beat Dumbarton in the semi-final "to great surprise", and then were 5 minutes away from beating Vale of Leven in the final, until the Vale forced an equalizer from a scrimmage. The replay at Renton's Tontine Park attracted 4,000 spectators, but, despite having the better of the game, the Athletics went down 2–1.
The club's second final was in 1888–89, losing to Dumbarton 6–2 in a game noted for its good spirits. The Athletics also reached the final of the prestigious Dumbarton FA Tournament in 1886–87, held before the start of the season, again losing to Dumbarton.