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Hudson River Derby
The Hudson River Derby, originally sometimes known as the New York derby, is the name given to the local derby between the two Major League Soccer (MLS) clubs based in the New York metropolitan area, the New York Red Bulls and New York City FC. The derby derives its name from the Hudson River, which passes between the home stadiums of the two clubs. First played in 2015, the rivalry between the two started almost as soon as New York City was awarded an expansion club in 2013. The derby is primarily contested for bragging rights of the current MLS regular season; although the two clubs occasionally meet in playoffs or other competitions, only regular-season results are counted towards the season trophy.
On July 12, 2019, three supporters groups—Empire Supporters Club and Viking Army from the Red Bulls, and the Third Rail from NYCFC—announced the formation of the Hudson River Derby Foundation, a non-profit corporation two years in the making, to "grow, manage, and administer the annual Hudson River Derby competition" between the two clubs. On September 9, 2023, the Hudson River Derby Foundation unveiled the physical trophy contested by the clubs, a bronze representation of the Statue of Liberty's torch.
Speaking about the rivalry between the two clubs, former U.S. men's national team goalkeeper and television commentator Tony Meola was quoted as saying "it isn't fabricated. Where sometimes in the past I think ... (the league) had to fabricate some of these rivalries."
New York City has a significant history with top level club soccer including the New York Cosmos of the North American Soccer League, the most successful team in that competition's history. With New York's position as the most populous city in the United States, it was expected when MLS was founded in 1993, that one of the founding clubs would play in the New York metropolitan area. This club started play in the inaugural 1996 MLS season as the NY/NJ MetroStars.
Since its start, MLS has engaged in a steady process of expansion from its initial ten clubs until 2010, when the league announced its intention to award its 20th franchise to New York City. The MetroStars, renamed as the New York Red Bulls following the franchise's purchase by Red Bull GmbH in 2006, played in New Jersey for their entire existence, beginning in Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey, before moving to a purpose built soccer-specific stadium in Harrison, Red Bull Arena. The plan for the second New York franchise was for it to play in the city proper. That 20th franchise was indeed eventually awarded in 2013 to a consortium of the City Football Group and Yankee Global Enterprises, with the new club adopting the name New York City FC. NYCFC instantly made being in the five boroughs a key element of its club identity, as opposed to the suburban nature of the Red Bulls.
New York City FC began play in the 2015 MLS season. The first league meeting with the Red Bulls was scheduled for May 10 at Red Bull Arena. The buildup to the game saw an increasing level of antagonism between both the clubs and their respective supporters groups, with the Red Bulls emphasizing their history from the start of MLS as opposed to the new club, with NYCFC pointing to the fact that they are the only club to play within the five boroughs. The first meeting between the two, in front of a capacity crowd, saw striker Bradley Wright-Phillips score the first goal in a 2–1 win for the Red Bulls. Subsequent to this game, there were two further league meetings between the teams, at Yankee Stadium and Red Bull Arena, both resulting in wins for the Red Bulls. NYCFC won their first game against the Red Bulls at the fifth time of asking on July 3, 2016, at Yankee Stadium. The Red Bulls 7–0 win at Yankee Stadium in 2016 is tied for the highest victory margin in MLS history.
In 2017, New York City began to gain traction in the derby, going undefeated in all three meetings and finishing above the Red Bulls for the first time. On August 6, 2017, during a 3–2 New York City FC victory, David Villa recorded the derby's first ever hat trick.
That same year, the Red Bulls and New York City FC played their first exhibition game and the first derby match in a neutral stadium. The match was part of the 2017 Desert Diamond Cup in Tucson, Arizona with the match taking place on February 15, 2017. The Red Bulls won against New York City FC 2–0, with Sacha Kljestan scoring both goals. Neither NYFC nor NYRB failed to go to the Consolation round as both teams ended at the bottom.
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Hudson River Derby
The Hudson River Derby, originally sometimes known as the New York derby, is the name given to the local derby between the two Major League Soccer (MLS) clubs based in the New York metropolitan area, the New York Red Bulls and New York City FC. The derby derives its name from the Hudson River, which passes between the home stadiums of the two clubs. First played in 2015, the rivalry between the two started almost as soon as New York City was awarded an expansion club in 2013. The derby is primarily contested for bragging rights of the current MLS regular season; although the two clubs occasionally meet in playoffs or other competitions, only regular-season results are counted towards the season trophy.
On July 12, 2019, three supporters groups—Empire Supporters Club and Viking Army from the Red Bulls, and the Third Rail from NYCFC—announced the formation of the Hudson River Derby Foundation, a non-profit corporation two years in the making, to "grow, manage, and administer the annual Hudson River Derby competition" between the two clubs. On September 9, 2023, the Hudson River Derby Foundation unveiled the physical trophy contested by the clubs, a bronze representation of the Statue of Liberty's torch.
Speaking about the rivalry between the two clubs, former U.S. men's national team goalkeeper and television commentator Tony Meola was quoted as saying "it isn't fabricated. Where sometimes in the past I think ... (the league) had to fabricate some of these rivalries."
New York City has a significant history with top level club soccer including the New York Cosmos of the North American Soccer League, the most successful team in that competition's history. With New York's position as the most populous city in the United States, it was expected when MLS was founded in 1993, that one of the founding clubs would play in the New York metropolitan area. This club started play in the inaugural 1996 MLS season as the NY/NJ MetroStars.
Since its start, MLS has engaged in a steady process of expansion from its initial ten clubs until 2010, when the league announced its intention to award its 20th franchise to New York City. The MetroStars, renamed as the New York Red Bulls following the franchise's purchase by Red Bull GmbH in 2006, played in New Jersey for their entire existence, beginning in Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey, before moving to a purpose built soccer-specific stadium in Harrison, Red Bull Arena. The plan for the second New York franchise was for it to play in the city proper. That 20th franchise was indeed eventually awarded in 2013 to a consortium of the City Football Group and Yankee Global Enterprises, with the new club adopting the name New York City FC. NYCFC instantly made being in the five boroughs a key element of its club identity, as opposed to the suburban nature of the Red Bulls.
New York City FC began play in the 2015 MLS season. The first league meeting with the Red Bulls was scheduled for May 10 at Red Bull Arena. The buildup to the game saw an increasing level of antagonism between both the clubs and their respective supporters groups, with the Red Bulls emphasizing their history from the start of MLS as opposed to the new club, with NYCFC pointing to the fact that they are the only club to play within the five boroughs. The first meeting between the two, in front of a capacity crowd, saw striker Bradley Wright-Phillips score the first goal in a 2–1 win for the Red Bulls. Subsequent to this game, there were two further league meetings between the teams, at Yankee Stadium and Red Bull Arena, both resulting in wins for the Red Bulls. NYCFC won their first game against the Red Bulls at the fifth time of asking on July 3, 2016, at Yankee Stadium. The Red Bulls 7–0 win at Yankee Stadium in 2016 is tied for the highest victory margin in MLS history.
In 2017, New York City began to gain traction in the derby, going undefeated in all three meetings and finishing above the Red Bulls for the first time. On August 6, 2017, during a 3–2 New York City FC victory, David Villa recorded the derby's first ever hat trick.
That same year, the Red Bulls and New York City FC played their first exhibition game and the first derby match in a neutral stadium. The match was part of the 2017 Desert Diamond Cup in Tucson, Arizona with the match taking place on February 15, 2017. The Red Bulls won against New York City FC 2–0, with Sacha Kljestan scoring both goals. Neither NYFC nor NYRB failed to go to the Consolation round as both teams ended at the bottom.
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