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Whitey Bimstein
Morris "Whitey" Bimstein (January 10, 1897 – July 12, 1969) was an American boxing trainer who would be remembered for his exceptional career and as a cutman to world champions. Though his cutwork was usually confined to only forty seconds between rounds, it amazed doctors for its thoroughness and professionalism.
Bimstein was born in New York's Lower East Side, Manhattan, and graduated from the East Side's Public School #62 in 1910, where he competed in track, baseball and basketball. After graduation, his father moved the family to Brook Avenue and 138th Street in the Bronx, which ended Bimstein's formal education. He took to hanging out in the basement of St. Jerome's Catholic Church, where Father Ryan, the pastor, gave boxing lessons. Soon, as a bantamweight, he was fighting four-rounders at New York's Fairmont Athletic Club. He was noticed by Tom McArdle, who, later with Lou Briggs, became Bimstein's manager. But Bimstein was lazy when it came to training, he later admitted. So McArdle started using Bimstein as a sparring partner for his other fighters and eventually as a cornerman. He usually worked at Stillman's Gym daily from noon to 3 p.m.
He boxed professionally for 70 fights, then retired from fighting and joined the U.S. Navy as a WWI boxing instructor in 1918. When he left the Navy, he decided to become a full-time trainer. He formed a partnership with Ray Arcel in 1925 and as a team they developed many of the greatest boxers of their era. Their partnership ended in 1934 due to economic stresses, but Bimstein was still very much in demand, by the fighters that wanted to work with him, the managers who would only trust their fighters to him, and the promoters who trusted him to deliver a well trained conditioned boxer.
Bimstein was one of A J Liebling's most reliable informants for his boxing reports in The New Yorker during the 1930s, and his wit, wisdom and Newyorkisms are frequently quoted. Notably, he was the subject of a 5000-word profile by Liebling which appeared in the issue of 20 March 1937, pp 31–35, just a few weeks after Bimstein's 40th birthday.
″Managers pay him to do the thinking for their boys, and his relation to a fighter, particularly a young one, is approximately that of a jockey to a horse. Few fighters ever have as many as a hundred engagements in a lifetime. Whitey, since he quit boxing in proprio persona, in 1917, has thought his way through about fifteen thousand battles as a second. Since history constantly repeats itself in the ring, he knows the answers to most sets of circumstances before even a boxer of genius could fathom them for himself.″
Bimstein's greatest early victory and source of recognition may have been his work in Gene Tunney's corner when he defeated Jack Dempsey for the World Heavyweight title in Philadelphia in the fall of 1926. Equally significant was his training James J. Braddock to defeat Max Baer for the World Heavyweight Championship at Madison Square Garden in June 1935. Few believed Braddock could have won prior to his training with Bimstein.
He handled the most outstanding boxers of his era, including Jack Dempsey, Gene Tunney, Harry Greb, Georges Carpentier, Jackie (Kid) Berg, Benny Leonard, Sixto Escobar, Lou Ambers, Barney Ross, Fred Apostoli, Max Baer, Primo Carnera, James "Cinderella Man" Braddock, Billy Conn, Rocky Marciano, Billy Graham, Joey Archer, and Rocky Graziano. At one point in the 1930s, he had handled every recognized champion. He later partnered with Freddie Brown, and they had great success with their boxers from the 1950s until Whitey's forced retirement in 1969. His 1959 highlight was Ingemar Johansson, winning the heavyweight crown.
His last heavyweight championship was George Chuvalo for his fight with Muhammad Ali in March 1966 in Toronto. Chuvalo lost the bout on points to the century's best known heavyweight, but avoided a knockout and stayed in the ring for the full fifteen rounds.
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Whitey Bimstein
Morris "Whitey" Bimstein (January 10, 1897 – July 12, 1969) was an American boxing trainer who would be remembered for his exceptional career and as a cutman to world champions. Though his cutwork was usually confined to only forty seconds between rounds, it amazed doctors for its thoroughness and professionalism.
Bimstein was born in New York's Lower East Side, Manhattan, and graduated from the East Side's Public School #62 in 1910, where he competed in track, baseball and basketball. After graduation, his father moved the family to Brook Avenue and 138th Street in the Bronx, which ended Bimstein's formal education. He took to hanging out in the basement of St. Jerome's Catholic Church, where Father Ryan, the pastor, gave boxing lessons. Soon, as a bantamweight, he was fighting four-rounders at New York's Fairmont Athletic Club. He was noticed by Tom McArdle, who, later with Lou Briggs, became Bimstein's manager. But Bimstein was lazy when it came to training, he later admitted. So McArdle started using Bimstein as a sparring partner for his other fighters and eventually as a cornerman. He usually worked at Stillman's Gym daily from noon to 3 p.m.
He boxed professionally for 70 fights, then retired from fighting and joined the U.S. Navy as a WWI boxing instructor in 1918. When he left the Navy, he decided to become a full-time trainer. He formed a partnership with Ray Arcel in 1925 and as a team they developed many of the greatest boxers of their era. Their partnership ended in 1934 due to economic stresses, but Bimstein was still very much in demand, by the fighters that wanted to work with him, the managers who would only trust their fighters to him, and the promoters who trusted him to deliver a well trained conditioned boxer.
Bimstein was one of A J Liebling's most reliable informants for his boxing reports in The New Yorker during the 1930s, and his wit, wisdom and Newyorkisms are frequently quoted. Notably, he was the subject of a 5000-word profile by Liebling which appeared in the issue of 20 March 1937, pp 31–35, just a few weeks after Bimstein's 40th birthday.
″Managers pay him to do the thinking for their boys, and his relation to a fighter, particularly a young one, is approximately that of a jockey to a horse. Few fighters ever have as many as a hundred engagements in a lifetime. Whitey, since he quit boxing in proprio persona, in 1917, has thought his way through about fifteen thousand battles as a second. Since history constantly repeats itself in the ring, he knows the answers to most sets of circumstances before even a boxer of genius could fathom them for himself.″
Bimstein's greatest early victory and source of recognition may have been his work in Gene Tunney's corner when he defeated Jack Dempsey for the World Heavyweight title in Philadelphia in the fall of 1926. Equally significant was his training James J. Braddock to defeat Max Baer for the World Heavyweight Championship at Madison Square Garden in June 1935. Few believed Braddock could have won prior to his training with Bimstein.
He handled the most outstanding boxers of his era, including Jack Dempsey, Gene Tunney, Harry Greb, Georges Carpentier, Jackie (Kid) Berg, Benny Leonard, Sixto Escobar, Lou Ambers, Barney Ross, Fred Apostoli, Max Baer, Primo Carnera, James "Cinderella Man" Braddock, Billy Conn, Rocky Marciano, Billy Graham, Joey Archer, and Rocky Graziano. At one point in the 1930s, he had handled every recognized champion. He later partnered with Freddie Brown, and they had great success with their boxers from the 1950s until Whitey's forced retirement in 1969. His 1959 highlight was Ingemar Johansson, winning the heavyweight crown.
His last heavyweight championship was George Chuvalo for his fight with Muhammad Ali in March 1966 in Toronto. Chuvalo lost the bout on points to the century's best known heavyweight, but avoided a knockout and stayed in the ring for the full fifteen rounds.