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Moab Man
View on WikipediaThe Moab Man (also called "Malachite man") is a find of several human skeletons found after bulldozing in a mine whose rock dated to the Early Cretaceous period, about 140 million years ago. The original discovery of two individuals was made in 1971 by Lin Ottinger in the Keystone Azurite Mine near Moab, Utah, and has been used by creationists as an argument for humans coexisting with dinosaurs. John Marwitt, an archaeologist and the field director for the Utah Archaeological Survey, examined the fossils and concluded that the fossils were probably only hundreds of years old, the result of burials of Native Americans.[1]
Debated fossil status and age
[edit]In the 1980s, Paluxy Creationist Carl Baugh purchased a "Moab Man" skeleton from Ottinger; the skeleton was displayed in the Creation Evidence Museum in Glen Rose, Texas, as evidence of humans living at the same time as dinosaurs.[1] The Creation Evidence Museum also housed a collection of supposedly human fossil footprints, vertebrate and invertebrate fossils, and fossils attributed to various dinosaur genera, including a mislabeled pubis and ischium assigned to Acrocanthosaurus and a solitary "Y-shaped" fossil assigned the name "Unicerosaurus" (Armstrong, 1987, identified this fossil as belonging to a fish Xiphactinus).[2] Studies over the years had concluded that the fossil "human" footprints were actually "forms of elongate dinosaur tracks, while others were selectively highlighted erosional markings, and still others (on loose blocks) probable carvings."[3]
Later examination of the "Moab Man" skeletons indicate that they are unfossilized remains that were subject to an intrusive burial, and have been carbon dated to between 210 and 1450 years old (Berger and Protsch, 1989; Coulam and Schroedl, 1995).[1]
See also
[edit]References
[edit]- ^ a b c Kuban, Glen J. (2005). "'Moab Man' - 'Malachite Man'". paleo.cc.
- ^ Armstrong, John R. (1987). Creation/Evolution Newsletter 7 5:21
- ^ Kuban, G (1995). "On the Heels of Dinosaurs". TalkOrigins.org. Retrieved 2009-05-25.
- Coulam, Nancy J.; Schroedl, Alan R. (1995). "The Keystone Azurite Mine in Southeastern Utah". Utah Archaeology. 8 (1): 1–12.
- Jim Brandon (1978). Weird America: A Guide to Places of Mystery in the United States. p. 221.
External links
[edit]- "Moab Man" - "Malachite Man" The Paluxy Dinosaur/"Man Track" Controversy
- Read about the "Malachite man" (Moab man) at www.bible.ca
Moab Man
View on GrokipediaDiscovery and Initial Documentation
1976 Excavation by Lin Ottinger
In May 1971, Lin Ottinger, a Moab-based rock shop proprietor and avid amateur collector of minerals and fossils, uncovered partial human skeletal remains while prospecting for azurite in the Keystone Azurite Mine (formerly known as the Big Indian Copper Mine), located approximately 10 miles northwest of Moab, Utah.[4][2] Ottinger, then aged 43, was accompanied by his 11-year-old son during the discovery, which occurred amid disturbed sediments from prior mining activities, including bulldozing.[5][6] The find included major portions of two skeletons: an adult male whose bones displayed distinctive blue-green staining from contact with copper-bearing minerals like malachite, and a second set of remains nearby lacking such coloration.[2][4] Ottinger initially documented the site through on-site photographs and rudimentary measurements, noting the bones' position in loose, poorly consolidated sand rather than solid rock.[2] Shortly after the discovery, the site drew the attention of professional archaeologist J. P. Marwitt, field director for the Utah Statewide Archaeological Survey, who arrived within days to oversee the extraction of the remains without a full formal excavation team.[2][4] The bones were removed from their matrix and transferred to the University of Utah for preliminary storage and analysis, though Ottinger later retrieved and retained elements of the stained skeleton for private handling and eventual sale.[4]Subsequent Examinations and Preservation Efforts
Following the 1971 discovery by Lin Ottinger, the Moab Man remains were retained by the finder for several years before being sold in the early 1980s to Carl Baugh, a creationist researcher who displayed them at the Creation Evidence Museum in Glen Rose, Texas, to support arguments for human coexistence with dinosaurs.[2] This transfer established a chain of custody primarily among creationist institutions, with subsequent handling by figures such as preparator Joe Taylor, who received specimens including a hipbone for preparation and analysis.[7] Early post-discovery examinations in the 1970s and 1980s, conducted by involved parties including Ottinger and Baugh, confirmed the skeletal morphology as consistent with modern human anatomy, including articulated bones and associated artifacts like metal fragments suggestive of recent origin.[2] These assessments highlighted the bones' incomplete mineralization, with porous, non-petrified textures retaining traces of organic material rather than full replacement by minerals, alongside nearby unfossilized wood and shell fragments indicating an intrusive deposition rather than in situ fossilization.[2] Preservation efforts focused on stabilizing the malachite staining from copper minerals that impregnated the bones and encasing sandstone matrix, involving mechanical cleaning and consolidation to prevent disintegration during transport and display, though no advanced chemical treatments beyond basic stabilizers were documented in early handling.[2] These measures aimed to maintain physical integrity and provenance documentation amid transfers between private collectors and museums, ensuring the specimens' availability for further non-destructive study.[7]Physical Characteristics of the Remains
Skeletal Composition and Associated Artifacts
The primary Moab Man specimen, unearthed in 1971 at the Keystone Azurite Mine near Moab, Utah, comprises major portions of two partial human skeletons, including cranial elements, long bones, vertebrae, ribs, and pelvic fragments from an adult individual displaying standard human morphology such as joint articulations and dental structure with observable wear patterns.[4][2] These bones exhibit a distinctive blue-green hue from impregnation by copper minerals, including malachite and azurite, rendering them fragile and friable without evidence of extensive permineralization.[4][2] Additional remains recovered from the same site in the early 1990s include several crania, small bones such as phalanges, and at least four further sets of skeletal elements from multiple individuals, encompassing adults and possibly children, with similar human anatomical traits but lacking the mineral staining observed in the initial find.[4] These unstained bones were situated in loose sandy matrix approximately 15 feet below the surface.[2] Across the discoveries, a minimum of six individuals are represented by the combined skeletal inventory of complete, partial, and fragmentary elements.[4] Associated materials near the remains include scattered charcoal, ash from burned juniper wood, and pollen samples indicative of prehistoric human activity, though no pottery shards, stone tools, or other cultural artifacts were directly interred with the bones.[4][5]Evidence of Mineral Staining and Preservation State
The bones associated with the Moab Man discovery display a characteristic greenish discoloration attributed to malachite, a copper carbonate mineral (Cu₂CO₃(OH)₂), derived from adjacent copper-enriched sediments in the mining locale.[2] This staining manifests primarily on the bone surfaces, resulting from exposure to mineral-laden groundwater or mine waters that permeated superficially into porous structures without evidence of deep structural replacement.[2] Such surface-level impregnation aligns with mechanisms observed in intrusive mineralization, where dissolved ions from circulating fluids deposit in voids post-burial, rather than indicating contemporaneous (syngenetic) fossilization integrated with the enclosing sediment.[2] Examination reveals the bones to be friable—soft and crumbly to the touch—with minimal hardening or density increase, lacking the silicification or permineralization that would fill and reinforce internal matrices over extended exposure in sandstone environments.[2] No uniform calcium phosphate replacement or quartz infilling is reported, preserving a lightweight, modern-like texture distinct from fully mineralized fossils in comparable formations.[2] This condition suggests incomplete diagenetic alteration, where external staining occurs via episodic fluid migration into existing bone porosity, akin to secondary enrichments in ore-bearing sandstones of the Colorado Plateau, without pervasive host rock modification.[9] Preservation traits include partial retention of organic elements, as indicated by analyses of comparable specimens showing mummified collagen fibers in bone sections, which contradict expectations for advanced degradation in a high-mineral flux setting. The absence of brittle, rock-like consolidation further underscores superficial interaction with minerals like malachite, where groundwater facilitates staining through capillary action or diffusion into cracks, rather than wholesale recrystallization.[2]Geological Context
Location within the Dakota Sandstone Formation
The Moab Man remains were discovered in the Keystone Azurite Mine (formerly known as the Big Indian Copper Mine), located near Moab in Grand County, southeastern Utah, adjacent to Arches National Park.[2] This site lies within the Dakota Sandstone Formation, a Cretaceous unit stratigraphically dated to approximately 100 million years old based on regional fossil correlations and sequence stratigraphy.[10] The formation consists primarily of cross-bedded sandstones deposited in fluvial and shallow marine environments during the Early Cretaceous Albian to Cenomanian stages.[11] The excavation occurred in an open mining cut where bulldozers had stripped about 15 feet of overburden, exposing layered sandstone beds of the Dakota Formation.[2] However, the bones themselves were embedded not in the indurated, cemented matrix of the surrounding formation, but in loose, poorly consolidated sand pockets or blowsand deposits within crevices.[2] These pockets represent less lithified zones amid the otherwise hard sandstone, consistent with localized variations in diagenetic cementation across the formation.[2] In this arid region of the Colorado Plateau, fractured sandstones and fault zones facilitate groundwater percolation, enabling mineral-rich waters to infiltrate and potentially carry fine sediments or organic material downward into older strata through solution cavities and permeable layers—a process documented in regional hydrogeologic studies of the Dakota and overlying units.[2] The Keystone site's proximity to the Lisbon Valley fault system further enhances such fluid migration pathways, as faults in the Dakota Sandstone commonly serve as conduits for post-depositional mineralization and sediment transport.[4]Stratigraphic Position and Surrounding Matrix
The human remains designated as Moab Man were recovered from a position approximately 15 feet below the surface of a hill within the Dakota Sandstone formation near Moab, Utah.[2][12] The bones occupied crevices and pockets within the formation, infilled with loose, poorly consolidated blowsand and spalls of weathered or rotted sandstone, rather than being integrated into the surrounding lithified bedrock.[2] This matrix contrasted sharply with the harder, more competent portions of the Dakota Sandstone, which form the primary host rock.[2] No evidence of concretionary cementation or adhesive bonding adhered the remains to the enclosing rock, facilitating their extraction without fracturing the host material during the 1971 excavation.[2] Excavators noted the disturbance of unbound sediment, including screening of loose sand to retrieve fragmentary bones, consistent with deposition in pre-existing voids rather than contemporaneous embedding.[12][2] This positioning differs from typical in-situ dinosaur fossils in the Dakota Sandstone, which occur as permineralized specimens directly replaced within consolidated strata, without intervening unconsolidated fills.[2] The observed context suggests intrusion into fractures or eroded cavities formed after lithification of the primary sandstone layers.[2]Scientific Analyses and Dating
Radiocarbon Dating Results
Radiocarbon dating conducted on samples from the malachite-stained skeletal remains, associated with the original 1971 discovery, produced uncalibrated ages ranging from 140 to 280 years before present (BP).[13][3] These results, obtained through collagen extraction methods confirming preserved organic material, were consistent across analyses including those performed by a UCLA laboratory.[5] Calibration of these dates yields a range approximately corresponding to AD 1700–1850, within the detectable limit of carbon-14 methods (typically up to about 50,000 years).[2] Separate radiocarbon tests on a second set of remains excavated from the same mine site in the early 1990s yielded uncalibrated ages of 1,360 to 1,540 years BP.[2][14] These dates, also derived from collagen-based extractions validating the presence of datable biomolecules unsuitable for million-year-old fossils, calibrated to roughly AD 400–600.[2] The measurements showed no evidence of ages exceeding the carbon-14 technique's effective range, with results reproducible across multiple laboratory evaluations.[3]Assessments of Fossilization and Intrusion Mechanisms
The skeletal remains associated with Moab Man display characteristics inconsistent with typical fossilization processes expected over geological timescales, including the retention of organic material and mechanical pliability. Examinations revealed the bones to be soft and friable, with no permineralization or replacement of calcium by silica or other minerals, preserving elasticity that precludes long-term diagenetic hardening.[2] This state aligns with short-term preservation, as biochemical analyses of collagen and other organics in bone indicate degradation half-lives on the order of thousands of years under optimal conditions, rendering multimillion-year persistence implausible without exceptional anoxic sealing, which was absent here.[2] The deposition mechanism is best explained by intrusion into pre-existing sandstone fractures rather than primary embedment during formation. The flexed posture of the primary skeleton, coupled with the presence of associated artifacts such as shell beads, points to deliberate human burial practices prior to gravitational subsidence into vertical fissures, followed by infilling with loose sand from overlying eolian deposits—a process facilitated by seismic activity or erosion in the arid Moab region.[2] Such intrusive burials are documented in the Dakota Sandstone, where modern or recent interments have similarly percolated downward through jointed strata without disturbing the host matrix integrity.[2] Mineral staining on the bones, manifesting as green malachite-like discoloration, derives from localized copper-bearing groundwater percolation in the Keystone Azurite Mine area, rather than indicating depositional age. This superficial alteration occurs rapidly via soluble copper ions from nearby ore bodies, mirroring patterns in verified Holocene burials exposed to analogous mineralized aquifers in southeastern Utah formations, where staining does not correlate with antiquity but with post-burial hydrology.[1][2]Interpretations and Debates
Creationist Perspectives on Age and Implications
Young Earth creationists, particularly geologist Clifford Burdick affiliated with the Creation Research Society, have claimed that the Moab Man skeletons represent human remains deposited contemporaneously with the Dakota Sandstone formation, implying human-dinosaur coexistence during a recent global flood event.[15] Burdick argued that the greenish malachite (copper carbonate) staining on the bones resulted from permeation by mineral-rich solutions at the time of burial, evidencing prolonged exposure within the hardening sediment matrix rather than post-depositional intrusion.[15] This interpretation posits the remains as integral to the stratum, challenging uniformitarian dating by suggesting rapid sedimentation inconsistent with millions of years.[16] Proponents dismiss mainstream radiocarbon assessments of the bones as unreliable due to potential contamination from groundwater or modern carbon sources, asserting that detectable carbon-14 in ostensibly ancient organics aligns with a young-earth timeline under flood conditions where isotopic ratios differ from assumed steady-state decay.[17] They further contend that the "fossilized" mineral replacement in some bones indicates antiquity on a human scale—thousands rather than millions of years—supporting claims of accelerated permineralization during catastrophic burial.[16] Such views, echoed in Creation Research Society publications, reject evolutionary stratigraphy as presuppositionally biased toward deep time.[15] These perspectives carry implications for biblical literalism, framing the finds as corroboration for Genesis flood geology wherein humans and dinosaurs, both created on the sixth day, perished together around 4,350 years ago (circa 2348 BCE by Ussher chronology), rendering the earth approximately 6,000 years old.[17] Advocates, including those referencing Burdick's work, argue this undermines macroevolutionary timelines by demonstrating human artifacts or remains in "dinosaur-age" layers, thereby validating a young-earth framework over long-age uniformitarianism.[18] The claims emphasize empirical observation of staining and context over radiometric methods, prioritizing a catastrophic model of earth history.[15]Mainstream Paleontological and Geological Rebuttals
Mainstream paleontologists and geologists contend that the Moab Man skeletons do not represent contemporaneous deposition with the Cretaceous Dakota Sandstone but instead intrusive burials into post-formational voids or loose sediments. The remains were recovered from approximately 15 feet deep in poorly consolidated blowsand at the base of a bulldozed mining pit, rather than within the indurated sandstone matrix, violating principles of superposition and primary context that would be required for Mesozoic contemporaneity.[2] This loose sand environment aligns with talus accumulation or anthropogenic deposition long after lithification of the host rock, dated to roughly 95-100 million years ago.[2] Radiometric dating further undermines claims of geological antiquity, with carbon-14 analyses yielding Holocene ages: one sample at 210 ± 70 years before present (circa AD 1740-1840) and another at 1450 ± 90 years BP (calibrated to AD 540-670), consistent with ancestral Puebloan activity in the region rather than the dinosaur-bearing Cretaceous period.[2][3] These results, obtained via accelerator mass spectrometry and conventional techniques, preclude any biochemical preservation over tens of millions of years, as unfossilized bone collagen and organics degrade rapidly beyond millennia-scale timescales under typical diagenetic conditions.[2] The greenish staining on the bones, attributed by proponents to malachite impregnation indicative of ancient mineralization, is superficial and results from recent exposure to copper-laden mine waters or adjacent azurite deposits, lacking the pervasive permineralization observed in genuine Dakota fossils like dinosaur vertebrae.[2] Histological examinations reveal modern bone microstructure without replacement by secondary minerals, and the skeletons exhibit flexed postures akin to documented Anasazi interments, suggesting ritual or opportunistic burial by pre-Columbian miners exploiting the site's mineral resources.[2] No anomalous morphology deviates from Holocene Homo sapiens, and the absence of associated Cretaceous fauna with the human remains reinforces the interpretation of isolated, post-depositional intrusion.[2]Key Criticisms of Methodological Claims
Critics have highlighted the amateur nature of the excavation conducted by Lin Ottinger, a local rock and fossil collector without formal paleontological training, which lacked stratigraphic controls, documentation of context, or measures to prevent contamination during recovery from the Big Indian Copper Mine site.[2] This informal approach, involving bulldozed mining exposures without professional oversight, introduced risks of displacing or mixing remains with modern debris, while overlooking evidence of regional Native American burial practices that could explain an intrusive deposition rather than contemporaneous embedding.[19] Such methodological gaps bias interpretations toward anomaly by failing to test for post-depositional disturbances common in porous sandstone environments. Proponents' claims of "fossilization" rely heavily on greenish mineral staining from malachite (copper carbonate) in the surrounding matrix, but this represents superficial adsorption rather than permineralization or replacement indicative of ancient co-deposition.[2] True fossilization requires verifiable biochemical alteration or structural integration with the host rock, absent here, as the remains exhibit soft-tissue preservation consistent with rapid arid desiccation followed by secondary staining in a mine-exposed void, not petrification over geological timescales.[20] The failure to apply petrographic thin-section analysis or isotopic tracing of mineral phases ignores karst-like dissolution features in the sandstone, which create cavities permitting modern intrusions without disrupting the formation's integrity.[21] Radiocarbon dating of the remains yielded ages in the range of 300-400 AD or more recent, supporting a post-formational burial, yet creationist arguments dismiss these results as contamination without presenting empirical evidence such as leachate tests or pretreatment protocols to isolate exogenous carbon.[19] This ad hoc rejection constitutes pseudoscientific selectivity, as no independent verification—such as uranium-series dating on associated carbonates or amino acid racemization—has been pursued to affirm youth or refute intrusion, despite these methods' suitability for testing contemporaneity in calcareous sandstones.[2] Mainstream geologists emphasize that the site's description as a "cave-in" burial pocket further undermines age-equivalence claims, as it aligns with episodic fracturing rather than primary depositional contemporaneity.[22]Legacy and Recent Developments
Influence on Young Earth Creationism Discussions
The Moab Man remains were initially embraced by young Earth creationists as an out-of-place artifact embedded in Cretaceous-age Dakota Sandstone, purportedly evidencing human antiquity inconsistent with evolutionary timelines and supporting a young earth framework. Creationist geologist Clifford Burdick highlighted the 1971 discovery in his 1973 analysis, arguing it demonstrated rapid burial during a global flood event rather than millions of years of deposition.[2] This interpretation positioned the find as a challenge to uniformitarian geology, with Burdick claiming the bones' malachite staining indicated contemporaneity with the surrounding matrix.[2] In subsequent creationist publications, the case appeared in a dedicated chapter of the 1989 volume Science and Earth History, where proponents contended it refuted standard fossilization models by showing unfossilized human bones in ancient strata.[19] Carl Baugh acquired and displayed replicas or associated specimens at his Creation Evidence Museum starting in the 1980s, incorporating them into exhibits and lectures promoting human-dinosaur coexistence.[2] The Creation Research Society further referenced the remains in a 2001 Quarterly article using scanning electron microscopy to compare bone microstructure, contrasting Moab Man's lack of preserved soft tissue with purported dinosaur findings to argue against deep-time preservation.[7] Despite these early advocacies, the discovery's influence waned in formal young Earth literature after stratigraphic evidence revealed intrusive burials—likely post-mining collapses depositing recent Native American remains into the sandstone—rendering it incompatible with in-situ claims. Major organizations such as Creation Ministries International acknowledged in 2006 that the case lacked rigorous peer-reviewed scrutiny within creationist journals, contributing to its marginalization.[23] It retains niche traction in online forums and social media among alternative history advocates, occasionally resurfacing as anecdotal support for flood geology, but has elicited no substantive rebuttals in mainstream paleontology journals, as the intrusion hypothesis aligns with verifiable taphonomic processes like differential staining from copper mine mineralization.[2] This resolution underscores methodological critiques of early creationist handling, including incomplete provenance documentation by amateur discoverer Lin Ottinger, which amplified interpretive disputes without altering core young Earth evidentiary strategies.[2]Death of Discoverer Lin Ottinger in 2025
Lindy Earl Ottinger, the discoverer of the Moab Man remains, passed away peacefully at his home in Moab, Utah, on the night of February 12, 2025, at the age of 97.[24] [25] Known locally as Moab's "Dinosaur Man" for founding the Moab Rock Shop in 1957 and amassing extensive fossil and mineral collections that bolstered regional tourism, Ottinger's career included leading field expeditions where he unearthed the greenish-tinted human skeletons in 1971 amid copper-rich deposits near the La Sal Mountains.[6] [26] Ottinger's death did not prompt any new scientific analyses of the Moab Man specimens, which he had maintained in his private collection and occasionally displayed at the rock shop.[5] [27] The remains, along with associated artifacts like a leather pouch and metal fragments, are presumed to remain in family or private storage post-mortem, supplemented by existing photographs and digital records that enable continued empirical scrutiny without physical access.[2] Obituaries and local tributes emphasized Ottinger's adventurous legacy and community impact, evoking interest in his finds among residents and enthusiasts, while the paleontological consensus attributing the remains to relatively recent human activity—rather than Mesozoic antiquity—persists unaltered.[1] [26]References
- https://www.[researchgate](/page/ResearchGate).net/publication/374083928_THE_KEYSTONE_AZURITE_MINE_IN_SOUTHEASTERN_UTAH
- https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Moab_Man
