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Fake Empire
View on Wikipedia| "Fake Empire" | ||||
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| Single by The National | ||||
| from the album Boxer | ||||
| Released | June 23, 2008 | |||
| Recorded | Tarquin Studios | |||
| Genre | Indie rock, post-punk revival | |||
| Length | 3:27 | |||
| Label | Beggars Banquet Records | |||
| Songwriters | Matt Berninger, Bryce Dessner | |||
| Producers | Peter Katis and The National | |||
| The National singles chronology | ||||
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"Fake Empire" is a song by Brooklyn-based indie rock band The National from their fourth studio album, Boxer. The song was released in June 2008 as the album's third and final single.[1]
Production
[edit]"Fake Empire" was written by Bryce Dessner of The National. Commenting on the song's initial concept, he said, "Conceptually I said I would love to write a song that was based on a certain polyrhythm, the four-over-three pattern, which is what you hear in the piano. It's something I, personally, have never heard in rock music. What's interesting is the song sounds like it's in four, but it's in three. The harmonies and the way I'm playing the piano music are actually incredibly simple – sort of like "Chopsticks" simple – with this really weird rhythm. At the end we said, 'Oh, wouldn't it be cool if we had a horn fanfare?' so Padma [Newsome] wrote this very Steve Reichian minimalist horn fanfare."[2]
Lyrical Interpretation
[edit]Lyrically, "Fake Empire" is a commentary about a generation lost to disillusion and apathy. Vocalist Matt Berninger further explained to The Quietus that it is about "where you can't deal with the reality of what's really going on, so let's just pretend that the world's full of bluebirds and ice skating."[3]
Promotion
[edit]The National made their network television debut when they performed "Fake Empire" on the Late Show with David Letterman on July 24, 2007.[4] In the television series Chuck, the song appeared in the episode "Chuck Versus the Break-up" on October 13, 2008.[5] "Fake Empire" also played during the final scene of the pilot episode of NBC's police drama Southland,[6] as well as over the concluding scene and credits of the 2008 film Battle in Seattle.[7] An instrumental version of the song[8] was featured in Barack Obama's campaign video "Signs of Hope and Change" during his 2008 United States presidential campaign,[9][10] and the song was also played at the 2008 Democratic National Convention.[11] The members of The National supported the presidential candidate;[11] they put Obama's face on a fundraising T-shirt with the text "Mr. November", taken from the name of a song from the band's third album, Alligator.[11] In the fifth season premiere episode of the teen drama television series One Tree Hill, several songs by The National were featured, including "Fake Empire".[12] It was also featured in Person of Interest, at the end of the episode Sotto Voce, 9th episode of the 5th season. Season 1 episode 6 of Feel Good, a Netflix series, featured this song.
Reception
[edit]Allmusic considered "Fake Empire" one of The National's best songs, and described it as a song that "begins as a dead-of-night ballad that echoes Leonard Cohen, then peppy brass and guitars turn it into something joyous."[13] Mark Mordue of WAtoday called "Fake Empire" "one of the great rock'n'roll songs" of 2007. He described it as "a romantic-sounding tune marked by a quiet declaration that 'We're half awake in a fake empire,' [which] married the lonely-guy blues of a New York night to a veiled critique of American imperialism. In short, it expressed the feelings of being lost inside a dream."[14] Stylus Magazine ranked "Fake Empire" as the 7th-best song of 2007.[15]
Track listing
[edit]- DL and promo CD (BBQ 417)
- "Fake Empire" – 3:27
- "Without Permission" – 3:37
- "Fake Empire" (Live) – 3:42
Personnel
[edit]- Matt Berninger - vocals
- Aaron Dessner - guitar
- Bryce Dessner - guitar, piano
- Bryan Devendorf - drums, percussion
- Scott Devendorf - bass
Additional Musicians
- Tim Albright - trombone
- Thomas Bartlett - keyboards
- CJ Camerieri - trumpet
- Marla Hansen - backing vocals
- Jeb Wallace - French horn
Certifications
[edit]| Region | Certification | Certified units/sales |
|---|---|---|
| Canada (Music Canada)[16] | Gold | 40,000‡ |
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‡ Sales+streaming figures based on certification alone. | ||
Cover versions
[edit]- Danny Seim of Menomena recorded a cover of the song in 2008 for his solo project, Lackthereof, on the album Your Anchor.[17]
- Ryan Lewis also released a song called "Fake Empire" on the album The VS. [Redux] in 2010 together with Macklemore. It samples the "Fake Empire" refrain, therefore making it a remix rather than a cover.
- Anna-Lynne Williams released a version of the song as Lotte Kestner on her 2011 album Stolen.
- Molly Tuttle, recorded a cover of the song on her …but I’d rather be with you album, released in 2020[18]
References
[edit]- ^ "Sound / Fake Empire - Single (Promo)". The National. Archived from the original on 2010-01-11. Retrieved 2010-01-23.
- ^ Richardon, Derk (2007-06-21). "The National's brand of intelligent art-rock quietly hooks listeners in". San Francisco Chronicle. Archived from the original on 2007-08-11. Retrieved 2010-01-23.
- ^ Fake Empire by The National Archived 2017-08-08 at the Wayback Machine - Songfacts (accessed December 28, 2015)
- ^ "Now Playing: The National – "Fake Empire"". CBS. Archived from the original on 2011-06-04. Retrieved 2010-01-23.
- ^ "Chuck: Episode 2.3, "Chuck vs. the Breakup"". BuddyTV. 2008-10-13. Archived from the original on 2010-05-07. Retrieved 2010-01-23.
- ^ "Southland: "Pilot"". AV Club. 2009-04-09. Archived from the original on 2010-01-22. Retrieved 2010-01-23.
- ^ "Battle in Seattle (2007) soundtrack". IMDb. Archived from the original on 2009-12-09. Retrieved 2010-01-23.
- ^ Hogan, Marc (2008-10-29). "You Can Vote However You Like". Pitchfork Media. Archived from the original on 2010-02-22. Retrieved 2010-01-23.
- ^ "The National Team Up With Obama To Bring "Signs Of Hope & Change"". Stereogum. 2008-09-03. Archived from the original on 2010-02-03. Retrieved 2010-01-23.
- ^ BarackObamadotcom (2008-09-01). Signs of Hope & Change. Retrieved 2024-08-07 – via YouTube.
- ^ a b c Lopez, Korina (2008-09-17). "The National's fame starts to live up to the name". USA Today. Archived from the original on 2010-05-25. Retrieved 2010-01-23.
- ^ "One Tree Hill music". The CW. Archived from the original on 2010-04-12. Retrieved 2010-01-23.
- ^ "Boxer review". Allmusic. Archived from the original on 2011-11-13. Retrieved 2010-01-23.
- ^ Mordue, Mark (2008-08-10). "Crouching tiger, hidden dragon". WAtoday. Archived from the original on 2008-08-14. Retrieved 2010-01-23.
- ^ "Top 50 Songs of 2007". Stylus Magazine. Archived from the original on 2015-02-06. Retrieved 2010-01-23.
- ^ "Canadian single certifications – The National – Fake Empire". Music Canada. Retrieved March 22, 2023.
- ^ "Rock and pop reviews". Irish Times. 2008-08-22. Archived from the original on 2012-10-20. Retrieved 2010-03-19.
- ^ Freeman, Jon (2020-06-26). "Molly Tuttle Previews New Album With Cover of the National's 'Fake Empire'". Rolling Stone. Retrieved 2025-01-15.
External links
[edit]Fake Empire
View on GrokipediaBackground and Composition
Origins and Writing
"Fake Empire" originated during sessions for The National's 2007 album Boxer, with guitarist Bryce Dessner conceiving the track's core musical structure around a distinctive polyrhythmic piano hook featuring a four-over-three pattern—three bass notes in the left hand against a single chord in the right—which Dessner noted was unprecedented in rock music.[11][9] This simple yet deceptive rhythmic foundation formed the song's initial sketch, reflecting Dessner's approach to creating instrumental outlines for the band.[12] Vocalist Matt Berninger penned the lyrics, drawing from themes of escapism and avoidance of harsh realities, portraying a half-awake state amid illusion—such as "picking apples, making pies" or performing a "gay ballet on ice" in a fabricated world.[11] Berninger has clarified that the song stems from personal emotional struggles, akin to getting intoxicated to numb self-loathing and fears, rather than serving as an overt political critique, though it emerged amid broader disillusionment with contemporary American society.[13] The track's arrangement evolved late in production, with multi-instrumentalist Padma Newsome contributing a horn fanfare coda inspired by Steve Reich's minimalist techniques, which Berninger described as transforming a "sleepy little simple song" into a more dynamic closer.[9][14]Musical Elements
"Fake Empire" opens with a sparse piano introduction featuring stately chords that establish a 4:3 polyrhythm, where the higher piano notes align in groups of four against the lower notes and drums in groups of three, creating a layered rhythmic tension central to the song's texture.[15][16] This polyrhythmic foundation, in 12/8 time signature, contributes to the track's hypnotic, forward-propelling momentum despite its moderate tempo of 102 beats per minute.[17][18] The song is composed in C major, allowing Matt Berninger's baritone vocals to intone over the evolving arrangement without clashing tonally.[19] Instrumentation draws from the band's core setup: piano leads the intro, joined by Aaron Dessner's guitar lines that reinforce the rhythmic complexity, Scott Devendorf's bass providing steady low-end pulse, and Bryan Devendorf's drums emphasizing the triple subdivision.[12] As the track progresses, it builds dynamically from minimalism to fuller band swells, incorporating subtle brass swells in the outro for added orchestral depth, while maintaining restraint to underscore the indie rock aesthetic.[11] This arrangement exemplifies The National's approach to post-punk revival with baroque influences, where rhythmic innovation and gradual intensification serve the song's introspective mood rather than overt virtuosity.[20]Lyrics and Themes
Content Analysis
The lyrics of "Fake Empire" depict a scenario of willful escapism and denial, portraying characters engaging in whimsical, alcohol-fueled activities amid an illusory societal structure. The opening verse evokes pastoral idylls laced with intoxication—"Stay out super late tonight / Picking apples, making pies / Put a little something in our lemonade / And take it with us"—suggesting a deliberate numbing of awareness through leisure and substance.[2] This is juxtaposed with the refrain "We're half awake in a fake empire," repeated to emphasize a state of semi-consciousness or deliberate ignorance within a deceptive national or cultural framework.[21] Subsequent imagery intensifies the surreal detachment: "Tiptoe through our shiny city / With our diamond slippers on / Do our gay ballet on ice / Bluebirds on our shoulders." Here, urban affluence merges with fairy-tale fantasy—diamond slippers alluding to opulent fragility akin to Cinderella's, and "gay ballet on ice" connoting performative lightness or frivolity on unstable ground—symbolizing a polished yet precarious existence propped by denial.[2] The second verse introduces retrospective regret: "Tell our friends about it, the big mistake we made / We'll laugh about it someday," implying an unspoken error, possibly collective societal choices, deferred for future minimization rather than confrontation.[21] Lead singer Matt Berninger has described the song as capturing a mindset "where you can't deal with the reality of what's really going on," framing the "fake empire" as a metaphor for escapism in the face of underlying dysfunction. Band members expressed surprise at its use in political contexts, noting it critiques America's state as "how f---ed up [it] is and wanting to leave," particularly amid perceptions of imperial overreach.[11] Critics have interpreted the "fake empire" as referencing U.S. media projections of dominance masking internal decay, with hedonistic distractions serving as avoidance of geopolitical realities like the Iraq War era.[22] This aligns with the lyrics' causal undercurrent: superficial pursuits sustain the illusion, but the repeated "half awake" state signals inherent instability, where unaddressed mistakes erode the foundation over time.[2]Interpretations and Debates
Interpretations of "Fake Empire" center on themes of escapism and denial in the face of societal and political dysfunction, with the "fake empire" symbolizing an illusory American dominance or collective self-deception during the George W. Bush era.[9] Lead singer Matt Berninger has characterized the song as capturing a mindset of avoidance, where individuals tune out grim realities—such as ongoing wars and domestic malaise—through hedonistic distractions like late-night revelry and alcohol, blending personal irresponsibility with implicit critique of national apathy.[23][24] Berninger emphasized its dual nature as both a political reflection on willful ignorance and a portrayal of everyday disengagement from "horrible things" in the world.[25] Debates surrounding the track often arise from its ironic adoption in U.S. political campaigns, despite its undertones of disillusionment with American exceptionalism. The Obama campaign prominently featured "Fake Empire" in a 2008 Democratic National Convention video introducing Barack Obama, and at rally events, prompting band members to question whether campaign staff grasped the lyrics' portrayal of a "f---ed up" America and desire to escape it.[5][11] This usage fueled discussions on the mismatch between the song's fatalistic tone—evoking Bush-era fatigue and imperial overreach—and the hopeful rhetoric of Obama's bid, with some right-wing commentators accusing the band of ideological alignment they disavowed.[24] In 2012, its unauthorized inclusion in a Mitt Romney campaign advertisement drew sharp rebuke from the band, who stated the song critiqued the very systemic failures Romney represented, underscoring broader tensions over artists' control versus political co-optation.[7] The National have maintained they are not a "political band," positioning the track's ambiguity as intentional rather than partisan agitprop.[24]Recording and Production
Studio Process
The recording of "Fake Empire," the opening track of The National's 2007 album Boxer, primarily occurred at Tarquin Studios in Bridgeport, Connecticut, with co-production by Peter Katis and the band.[26][27] Additional sessions took place elsewhere, including band members' homes, reflecting a collaborative and iterative approach amid the album's extended production timeline.[28] Bryce Dessner initiated the composition with a basic piano sketch developed backstage on an old upright piano during a small performance in Pensacola, Florida, incorporating a straightforward chord structure overlaid with a 4/3 polyrhythm—a rhythmic device uncommon in indie rock, drawing from minimalist influences.[12] This sketch formed the song's core melodic foundation, which evolved through band input, with vocalist Matt Berninger contributing lyrics that aligned with the emerging structure.[12] The piano element was among the earliest components captured, recorded by longtime collaborator Padma Newsome, marking his initial session with the band.[20] Core band instrumentation—guitars by Aaron and Bryce Dessner, bass by Scott Devendorf, and drums by Bryan Devendorf—was tracked live to tape where possible, emphasizing organic interplay, before digital refinement in Pro Tools for elements like aggressive EQ and compression on drums and vocals to achieve the album's dense, atmospheric sound.[29] A significant structural addition came late in the process: the track initially ended abruptly, leaving what Dessner described as a "big hole," prompting the integration of a brass fanfare for resolution.[30] Newsome arranged the horns, which Aaron Dessner then recorded in the attic of his Ditmas Park, Brooklyn home, capturing a "heart-exploding" outro to provide cathartic closure amid the band's uncertainty over the song's finale.[31][12] This layered approach, documented in the 2008 film A Skin, A Night, underscored Boxer's meticulous refinement, blending analog warmth with post-production polish over several months.Key Personnel Contributions
Peter Katis served as the primary producer, recording engineer, and mixer for "Fake Empire," handling the track's core sessions at Tarquin Studios in Bridgeport, Connecticut, during the production of the band's 2007 album Boxer. Katis specifically recorded the song's distinctive piano introduction as his first collaboration with the group, establishing the sparse, evocative opening that sets the track's contemplative tone.[20][32] Aaron Dessner provided additional production and recorded the anthemic horn outro in his home studio in Ditmas Park, Brooklyn, adding the brass swell that builds to the song's climactic resolution and enhances its emotional arc.[33] Bryce Dessner composed the music, drawing from instrumental concepts that shaped the track's structure, including its rhythmic drive and melodic motifs.[34] The band's core members contributed instrumentally and creatively: Matt Berninger delivered the baritone vocals and co-wrote lyrics evoking themes of disillusionment; Aaron and Bryce Dessner handled guitars, keyboards, and orchestration elements; Scott Devendorf played bass; and Bryan Devendorf provided drums, emphasizing the song's steady, propulsive groove. Padma Newsome arranged orchestration, incorporating subtle string and brass textures that support the track's atmospheric depth. Songwriting credits are attributed collectively to Berninger, the Dessner brothers, and the Devendorf brothers.[32][2]Release and Promotion
Single Release
"Fake Empire" was issued as the third and final single from The National's album Boxer on June 23, 2008, via Beggars Banquet Records.[35][36] The release followed earlier singles "Mistaken for Strangers" and "Apartment Story," capitalizing on the album's critical acclaim and growing fanbase.[35] The single was primarily available in CD format, cataloged as BBQ 417CDP, featuring the original track without additional b-sides noted in standard editions.[37] Promotional efforts included radio play and live performances, though it did not achieve prominent positions on major music charts, reflecting the band's emphasis on album-oriented success over top-40 hits.[38] The single's promotion coincided with increased visibility for Boxer, which had been released in 2007, helping to sustain momentum through media appearances and endorsements, including its selection for Barack Obama's 2008 presidential campaign advertisements.[24]Media and Political Usage
The song "Fake Empire" gained prominent political usage during Barack Obama's 2008 presidential campaign, featuring in an introductory video at the Democratic National Convention on August 28, 2008, which highlighted Obama's life and career to delegates in Denver, Colorado.[5] The track's instrumental version also appeared in other Obama campaign materials, aligning with the band's explicit support for his candidacy; The National performed at Obama rallies, including one in Madison, Wisconsin, on September 28, 2008, alongside artists like Ben Harper.[39] [24] In contrast, on October 25, 2012, an unauthorized pro-Mitt Romney advertisement produced by Ohio University Students for Romney used "Fake Empire" as its soundtrack, drawing immediate backlash from the band.[7] Frontman Matt Berninger publicly condemned the usage on Twitter, stating it misrepresented their anti-Bush-era, anti-imperialist intentions embedded in the lyrics, which critiqued American complacency and foreign policy under George W. Bush.[40] The band, who had endorsed Obama in both 2008 and 2012, emphasized their opposition to Republican campaigns, noting the song's prior association with Democratic messaging.[24] Beyond politics, "Fake Empire" has appeared in television programming, including a surveillance sequence in the CBS series Person of Interest (Season 1, Episode 1, aired September 22, 2011), where it underscored a tense, introspective montage of urban monitoring and character introduction.[41] It also featured in the BBC drama This Is Going to Hurt (2022), enhancing emotional scenes in the medical comedy series.[42] These placements highlight the song's atmospheric quality for narrative tension, though it has not been a staple in major film soundtracks.Reception and Impact
Critical Reception
"Fake Empire," the opening track on The National's 2007 album Boxer, received widespread praise from critics for establishing the record's atmospheric tone through its piano-driven intro and building orchestration. Pitchfork described it as evoking a "late-night, empty-city-street mood, slightly menacing but mostly melancholy," with lyrics like "We're half awake in a fake empire" capturing American societal angst and a sense of detached awareness.[43] The review highlighted the song's contribution to the album's restrained drama and isolation, awarding Boxer an 8.6 rating and "Best New Music" designation.[43] The Guardian ranked "Fake Empire" 11th among The National's 20 best songs, calling it their breakthrough track, partly due to its use in Barack Obama's 2008 campaign video, though emphasizing its themes of disillusionment, escapist fantasy, and a desire to flee the United States amid Bush-era disaffection.[44] Critics noted the song's musical innovation, including magnetic polyrhythms and a frenetic horn section inspired by Steve Reich, which underscored Bryce Dessner's emerging compositional role in the band.[44] Other outlets echoed this acclaim, with Drowned in Sound portraying the track's "dreary-eyed malaise" as a subdued return for the band, setting a more introspective pace than prior work. Albumism retrospective lauded it as an "enchanting opener" that seamlessly extended the dramatic close of the previous album Alligator, blending personal introspection with broader cultural critique.[26] While some interpreted the lyrics as a subtle Bush administration critique, reception focused on its emotional depth and sonic layering rather than overt politics.Commercial Performance and Certifications
"Fake Empire" was released as a single in the United Kingdom on June 23, 2008, by Beggars Banquet Records.[36] The release did not result in entry on major charts such as the UK Singles Chart or Billboard Hot 100, consistent with The National's position in the indie rock genre during that period. No sales figures for the single have been publicly reported by industry bodies. The track has not received certifications from organizations including the RIAA or BPI. In subsequent years, "Fake Empire" garnered digital streaming success, accumulating over 76 million plays on Spotify as of recent analytics.[45]Cultural and Political Legacy
"Fake Empire," the opening track from The National's 2007 album Boxer, encapsulates mid-2000s American disillusionment with themes of escapism and denial amid the Iraq War and post-9/11 political fatigue, resonating as a subtle critique of national self-deception.[46] Frontman Matt Berninger described it as portraying a situation of avoiding harsh realities, with lyrics evoking willful ignorance through mundane distractions like "dumb ballet" in a "fake empire."[3] This anti-imperialist sentiment, originally aimed at the Bush administration, positioned the song as an understated protest amid indie rock's aversion to overt activism.[8] Politically, the track gained prominence through its association with Barack Obama's 2008 presidential campaign, where an instrumental version underscored a video introduction at the Democratic National Convention in Denver, symbolizing a shift from cynicism to optimism.[5] The band permitted such uses but rejected labels as a "political band," emphasizing their focus on personal and societal introspection over partisanship; they performed at Obama benefits and rallies but clarified songs like "Fake Empire" addressed broader apathy rather than specific endorsements.[24] Conversely, its unauthorized deployment in a 2012 Mitt Romney campaign ad provoked band members' public fury, with Berninger decrying the misalignment with the song's intent and highlighting tensions over artistic control in electoral contexts.[7][40] Culturally, "Fake Empire" endures as a live performance staple, often closing sets with its anthemic brass swell, and has influenced indie rock's integration of political subtext without didacticism.[4] Covers, such as bluegrass artist Molly Tuttle's 2020 rendition previewing her album ...but i'd rather be with you, demonstrate its adaptability across genres, broadening its reach beyond alternative audiences.[47] The song's legacy lies in exemplifying how music can mirror societal malaise—evident in its echoes in discussions of generational lethargy—while avoiding prescriptive narratives, a hallmark of The National's oeuvre that continues to inform cultural reflections on American identity.[48][49]Live Performances
"Fake Empire" served as the setlist opener for The National's network television debut on The Late Show with David Letterman on July 24, 2007, marking the band's first major U.S. broadcast appearance ahead of the full Boxer album release.[50] [51] The performance highlighted the song's anthemic brass coda and Matt Berninger's baritone delivery, contributing to its rapid rise in live sets during the Boxer tour.[52] The track has remained a concert staple across subsequent tours, often positioned as an opener or closer to build emotional crescendos, with live versions emphasizing extended instrumental builds and audience sing-alongs. A full Boxer album recreation was captured at Forest National in Brussels on May 22, 2018, and released as Boxer (Live in Brussels), featuring "Fake Empire" with heightened crowd energy and orchestral swells.[53] [54] Other documented renditions include a sold-out Sydney Opera House forecourt show on March 6, 2014, streamed live, and a 2017 performance at Forest Hills Stadium in Queens, New York.[55] [56] Recent outings underscore its enduring appeal, such as at the Montreux Jazz Festival on July 31, 2024, where jazz-inflected elements amplified the song's brooding atmosphere, and a live recording from Rome included on the band's forthcoming album Rome, set for release on December 13, 2024.[10] [57] These performances demonstrate minimal structural changes over time, preserving the original's piano-driven intro and horn-driven finale while adapting to venue acoustics and band dynamics.[58]Track Listing
Formats and Variations
"Fake Empire" first appeared as the opening track on The National's 2007 album Boxer, released in multiple formats including CD (e.g., Europe and US editions by Beggars Banquet), vinyl LP (initial 2007 pressings in UK & Europe and US, with later reissues in colored variants such as yellow in 2011 and gold in 2021), and digital download (AAC and other files, 2007 onward).[59] The song was issued as a promotional CD single in 2008, with a UK edition (Beggars Banquet BBQ 417CDP, released June 23, 2008) containing the studio version (3:26), "Without Permission" (3:37), and a live version of "Fake Empire" (3:42); a US promo CD (Beggars Banquet BBQ 5805) also appeared that year, though its tracklist details are limited to including the main track.[38][37] No commercial non-promo single formats, such as standard retail CD or vinyl, were released for "Fake Empire."[37] Official variations are limited to live recordings: a digital single "Fake Empire (Live in Brussels)" from the 2018 album Boxer (Live in Brussels), recorded November 9, 2017, at Forest National in Brussels; and inclusions on the 2024 live album Rome, available in CD, vinyl, and digital formats.[60][61] No studio remixes or alternate versions have been officially issued.[62]Personnel
The personnel for "Fake Empire" consists of the core members of The National, who performed and arranged the track as part of their 2007 album Boxer.[63]- Matt Berninger – lead vocals, composer[63][2]
- Aaron Dessner – guitar, bass guitar, keyboards, arranger, producer[63]
- Bryce Dessner – guitar, piano, arranger, composer (notably contributing the opening piano hook and rhythmic elements)[63][20][9]
- Scott Devendorf – bass guitar[63]
- Bryan Devendorf – drums[63]
