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The Super Fight
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| The Super Fight | |
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DVD cover | |
| Directed by | Murray Woroner |
| Produced by | Murray Woroner |
| Starring | |
| Distributed by | Woroner Productions |
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| Language | English |
| Box office | $5 million[1] |
The Super Fight was a fictional, computerized boxing match between Rocky Marciano and Muhammad Ali shot in 1969 and released in 1970. At the time, Ali and Marciano were the only undefeated heavyweight champions in history and fans often debated who would win had they met in their primes. Ali and Marciano were filmed sparring for 75 one-minute rounds producing several possible scenarios for a genuine fight, with the result claimed to have been determined using probability formulas entered into a computer.
The final film was only shown once in select cinemas around the world, grossing $5 million ($41 million adjusted for inflation) from 1,500 theaters across North America and Europe.[1] After its run in theaters, the film was broadcast on television before eventually being released as a DVD over three decades later.
Background
[edit]In 1967, radio producer Murray Woroner had the idea of determining the all-time great heavyweight champion of the world by placing boxing champions of different eras in a series of fantasy fights.[2] Woroner sent out a survey to 250 boxing experts and writers to help determine which boxers would be used in what would become a fantasy tournament. Hank Meyer, president and salesman with one other partner in SPS, was instrumental in setting this competition up and contended at the time that it was his idea. Woroner picked the first round of fantasy matches to be:
- Jack Dempsey vs. Gentleman Jim Corbett
- John L. Sullivan vs. Jim Braddock
- Bob Fitzsimmons vs. Jack Sharkey
- Jim Jeffries vs. Jersey Joe Walcott
- Joe Louis vs. Jess Willard
- Max Baer vs. Jack Johnson
- Rocky Marciano vs. Gene Tunney
- Muhammad Ali vs. Max Schmeling
Punch-by-punch details of the boxer's records during their prime were entered into an NCR 315 computer. Their strengths, weaknesses, fighting styles and patterns and other factors and scenarios that the boxers could go through were converted into formulas. The NCR-315 with 20K of memory was supplied by SPS (Systems Programming Services), an independent service bureau in Miami, Florida. The algorithms were supplied by an NCR mathematician, and programming was done in Fortran by an employee of SPS. Hank Meyer, President and salesman with one other partner in SPS, was instrumental in setting this competition up and contended at the time that it was his idea. The actual running of the software was done the night before each broadcast round of the 'computer championship' and took approximately 45 minutes to run, the output was a formatted report containing a series of codes describing each punch. This was then written to magnetic tape, the tape was then manually transferred to a Univac 1005 and printed. This took place in early 1968.
The outcomes were then staged as radio plays with Woroner and radio announcer Guy LeBow as the commentators. The fantasy fights were broadcast worldwide. Even the boxers who were still alive at the time listened to the programs and some of them participated as commentators. After the series of elimination rounds, the final fight was between Dempsey and Marciano. Marciano defeated Dempsey and was considered to be the all-time greatest heavyweight champion by the computer. Woroner awarded the real Marciano a gold and diamond championship belt worth $10,000.
The film
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After Ali lost a fantasy fight in one of the radio broadcasts, he filed a $1 million lawsuit against Woroner for defamation of character,[3] stating his anger at his elimination at the second round to Jim Jeffries, a boxer Ali had previously called "history's clumsiest, most slow-footed heavyweight." [4] The lawsuit was settled when Woroner offered to pay Ali $10,000 while also getting his agreement to participate in a filmed version of a fantasy fight in which he would fight Marciano.[1] Ali and Marciano agreed on the condition that they would also receive a cut of the film's profits.
Marciano, whose last fight before retiring undefeated at 49–0 was 14 years prior,[5] also agreed to participate with a similar deal. In preparation for the film, Rocky lost over 50 pounds (23 kg) and wore a toupee in order to look as he did in his prime. Both he and Ali were reported to be enthusiastic about meeting each other and getting back in the ring.
The same formulas as the radio fantasy fights were used and entered into the NCR 315, with filming commencing February 1969 in a Miami studio. The two fighters sparred for between 70 and 75 rounds, exchanging mainly body blows with some head shots in-between, which were later edited together according to the findings of the computer. Braddock, Louis, Schmeling, Sharkey and Walcott also recorded commentary to be used in the film.
The outcome would not be revealed until the release of the film on January 20, 1970, shown in 1,500 theaters by video link in the United States, Canada, and throughout Europe. American and Canadian audiences were shown a version of Marciano knocking out Ali in the 13th round, as staged by the boxers, while European audiences were shown another ending in which Ali was depicted as the winner after opening cuts on Marciano, also simulated.[6]
Box office and reaction
[edit]In the United States, the film grossed more than $2.5 million from more than a thousand theaters.[7][2] Across North America and Europe, the film grossed $5 million ($41 million adjusted for inflation) from 1,500 theaters.[1]
Three weeks after filming was completed, Rocky Marciano died in a plane crash on the eve of what would have been his 46th birthday.[8][9] No feedback was recorded from him personally regarding the film, with the exception of Marciano's brother Peter who claimed that upon Rocky being asked whether he would win the fantasy fight, he was confident that he would win.[2]
Ali attended a screening of the film on the night of its release. He immediately relaunched legal proceedings against Woroner, again stating defamation of character, alleging the film's marketing had misled audiences worldwide to believe the fight was actual, while also stating any version of the film which depicted him losing was a result of him not taking the simulation seriously. He also claimed American audiences were left angered by Marciano being depicted as the winner and disputed whether the NCR 315 computer was used at all during or after filming.[2] Ali later dropped the lawsuit upon discovering his depicted win in European theatres, while also having been made aware of the filmmaker's plans to destroy remaining prints of the film to prevent potential legal action.
In a 1976 interview, Ali briefly recapped the film maintaining his ridicule of the style of filming and depicted outcomes. He however praised Marciano as a boxer stating they left filming on good terms.[2]
Destruction of film prints and recovery
[edit]During the buildup to the film's release, concerns were held regarding Ali's ban from boxing being active at the time of the film's conceptualization, recording and release, and were later fueled by allegations that marketing and promotional work for the film did not clearly detail that the fight was fictional and the outcome was decided by the NCR 315 computer as well as opinions of boxing experts. Upon the film's release, believing audiences were misled to believe the fight was actual and Ali threatening a second lawsuit upon Woroner, the producers announced all film prints had been destroyed.
Debates subsequently took place over the next three decades as to whether at least one print of the film had survived. It was cited that many theaters had continued to play the film long after January 20, 1970, and was also noted that the film had one airing on ABC's Wide World of Sports in 1970, and another on CBS late night in 1977, with many more broadcasts alleged throughout.
Following an official discovery of a surviving print in 2005, the film was authorized for release and distribution. On December 27, 2005, The Superfight: Marciano vs. Ali was released on DVD and has been televised several times since. The DVD includes a documentary about the film, audio of the original radio fantasy fights, archival interviews with the fighters that were chosen, and other features.[10]
Legacy
[edit]The Super Fight was featured in and inspired the plot of the 2006 film Rocky Balboa.
References
[edit]- ^ a b c d "Ali vs. Marciano: Who wins?". The Enterprise. September 1, 2009. Retrieved July 19, 2016.
- ^ a b c d e "The forgotten story of … the Rocky Marciano v Muhammad Ali Super Fight". The Guardian. November 13, 2012.
- ^ Schultz, Brad (November 5, 2015). Lombardi Dies, Orr Flies, Marshall Cries: The Sports Legacy of 1970. Rowman & Littlefield. p. 23. ISBN 978-1-4422-5629-3.
- ^ Weinstein, Arthur (June 5, 2016). "How Muhammad Ali regretted his strangest fight ever". Sporting News. Retrieved July 19, 2016.
- ^ Trinklein, Rhaya (October 1, 2003). "Rocky Marciano The Brockton Blockbuster". RockyMarciano.net. Archived from the original on August 20, 2016. Retrieved July 19, 2016.
- ^ Bingham, Howard; Wallace, Max (2000). Muhammad Ali's Greatest Fight: Cassius Clay vs. the United States of America. M. Evans. ISBN 0871319004. Retrieved August 29, 2021.
- ^ Sullivan, Russell (2002). Rocky Marciano: The Rock of His Times. University of Illinois Press. p. 286. ISBN 9780252027635.
- ^ "The Crash of Rocky Marciano's Cessna". Check-Six.com.
- ^ Christie, Matt (August 31, 2014). "On This Day: Heavyweight great Rocky Marciano dies in plane crash in 1969". Boxing News. Retrieved July 19, 2016.
- ^ "Superfight: Marciano Vs Ali [DVD] [1970]". amazon.co.uk. Retrieved July 19, 2016.
External links
[edit]- Official site for the DVD. Archived from the original on 2012-02-04.
- The Super Fight at IMDb
- January 20, 1970 UPI newspaper article
- January 21, 1970 AP newspaper article
- January 19, 1970 Time Magazine article
- January 4, 1970 El Paso Times newspaper article
- The Core Memory Project: Boxing Simulation All-Time Heavyweight Championship of the World
The Super Fight
View on GrokipediaOrigins and Concept
Murray Woroner's Radio Series
In 1967, Murray Woroner, a Miami-based radio producer and executive, conceived and produced the "All-Time Heavyweight Championship Tournament," a syndicated radio series simulating a knockout bracket among 16 of history's premier heavyweight boxing champions. Woroner compiled the roster by surveying approximately 250 boxing writers and experts to identify top contenders, including figures from various eras such as Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, and Rocky Marciano. He inputted quantitative data into a punch-card computer system, drawing on metrics like fighters' height, reach, weight, knockout percentages, punch output rates, and historical records to generate probabilistic outcomes for each matchup.[4][5][6] The series format consisted of scripted, narrated broadcasts mimicking live play-by-play commentary, with results dictated by the computer's rudimentary algorithms that modeled punch exchanges, stamina decay, and clinch probabilities based on the fed statistics. Episodes aired on multiple U.S. radio stations, presenting the tournament's progression from preliminary rounds to the championship bout, where outcomes favored fighters with superior aggregated data in simulated scenarios. This approach marked an early foray into data-driven fantasy sports analysis, prioritizing empirical inputs over anecdotal lore, though limited by the era's computing constraints, such as binary win probabilities and absence of qualitative factors like tactical adaptability.[7][8][9] To illustrate the methodology's development, Woroner incorporated evolving simulation elements in bouts like a hypothetical rematch between Jack Dempsey and Gene Tunney, using refined punch trajectory estimates derived from archival fight films and stat refinements across tournament rounds. The series' innovation in leveraging punch-card technology for predictive modeling sparked widespread listener engagement, evidenced by its syndication success and media coverage, ultimately inspiring Woroner's pivot to visual media adaptations of similar concepts.[10][5][6]Development of the Film Simulation
In 1969, radio producer Murray Woroner expanded his 1967 conceptual framework of computer-simulated boxing tournaments—initially broadcast as audio recreations of historical matchups—into a visual production centered on a hypothetical bout between Muhammad Ali and Rocky Marciano. This shift was motivated by the matchup's inherent marketability, as it featured the only two undefeated heavyweight champions in professional boxing history: Marciano, who retired with a 49-0 record in 1955 after defeating Archie Moore, and Ali, who stood at 29-0 with 23 knockouts before his title was stripped in 1967.[7][1] Logistical planning emphasized preserving spontaneity in participant responses, with Woroner directing that the computer-generated fight outcome remain undisclosed until after the core filming segments were completed. This secrecy enabled the capture of unscripted reactions from Ali and Marciano during separate interview and commentary sessions, which were later synchronized with the simulated action in editing.[7][1] The development occurred amid Ali's enforced absence from professional boxing, stemming from his June 1967 conviction for draft refusal and subsequent license revocations, which barred him from sanctioned fights until October 1970; the simulation nonetheless positioned him as the active titleholder at his physical prime, reflecting a deliberate abstraction from legal and regulatory realities to prioritize archival performance data over eligibility status.[5][2]Selection of Fighters
The matchup between Muhammad Ali and Rocky Marciano was selected due to their shared distinction as the only heavyweight boxing champions to retire or maintain undefeated records, sparking longstanding fan debates about a hypothetical prime-vs-prime encounter.[7] Marciano concluded his career in 1956 with a flawless 49-0 record, 43 by knockout, renowned for his relentless forward pressure and bobbing-and-weaving style that overwhelmed opponents through volume punching and durability.[11] At the time of the project's inception in 1969, Ali held an undefeated professional ledger of 31-0, including seven successful title defenses from 1964 to 1967, characterized by exceptional speed, lateral movement, and a whipping left jab that controlled distance.[12] Physical disparities underscored the empirical appeal of the pairing, with Marciano's compact 5 ft 10½ in (179 cm) frame and 68 in (173 cm) reach favoring inside fighting and higher punch output rates, as evidenced by his average of over 60 punches thrown per round in key bouts like the 1955 fight against Archie Moore.[13] In contrast, Ali's 6 ft 3 in (191 cm) height and 78 in (198 cm) reach enabled a outboxing approach, leveraging superior footwork to evade pressure while landing precise counters, with pre-1967 statistics showing him landing approximately 45% of his jabs against elite heavyweights.[14] This stylistic clash—swarm versus elusiveness—offered a causal test of whether Marciano's verified aggression and chin could breach Ali's defensive mobility, or if Ali's athletic edges would neutralize historical tactics untested against post-1960s speed.[1] The rationale avoided broader tournament simulations, focusing instead on this singular confrontation to highlight verifiable contrasts in knockout efficacy (Marciano's 88% rate versus Ali's 76% pre-comeback) and era-specific adaptations, privileging data-driven intrigue over narrative hype.[11][12] Producers prioritized fighters whose records and attributes promised maximal analytical depth, drawing from punch-for-punch metrics and film study rather than subjective rankings.[15]Production and Technology
Computer Simulation Process
The computer simulation for The Super Fight utilized an NCR 315 mainframe, a mid-1960s model weighing approximately 601 kg and requiring punched cards for data input, reflecting the era's batch-processing limitations without interactive screens or real-time computation.[2][6] Producer Murray Woroner fed the system with quantitative data derived from the fighters' professional records, including punch types and frequencies, reaction times, punching power estimates, biomechanical measurements, anthropometric factors (such as height, reach, weight, hand size, and calf circumference), and outcomes against common opponents, supplemented by assessments from around 250 boxing experts.[2][16] This data informed models of core variables like stamina (inferred from endurance in past bouts), offensive power (via historical knockout rates and punch impacts), and defensive efficacy (based on records of absorbed damage and clinch usage), but the process inherently oversimplified human elements by reducing them to static numerical inputs without accounting for dynamic intangibles such as Ali's psychological intimidation tactics or adaptive in-ring improvisation.[16] Each simulation run, which generated probabilistic round-by-round outcomes, required about 45 minutes of processing time, necessitating iterative executions to derive a consensus script for the 15-round bout rather than exhaustive thousands of trials feasible only with later computing advances.[2] The NCR 315's constraints—limited memory and no integration of emerging video analytics or machine learning precursors—meant the simulation prioritized empirical aggregates from fight logs over causal subtleties, such as Marciano's relentless inside fighting aggression or Ali's yet-to-emerge energy-conserving strategies like the rope-a-dope (first prominently used in 1974).[1] This approach yielded a deterministic narrative favoring Marciano's projected advantages in sustained pressure and body work, but inherent flaws in data granularity and absence of behavioral modeling drew retrospective critiques for failing to replicate boxing's chaotic variability.[16][2]Filming Techniques and Challenges
Filming for The Super Fight took place in a secured studio in Miami, Florida, during the summer of 1969, where Marciano and Ali acted out sequences dictated by the computer-generated script without prior knowledge of the final outcome.[1][17] The production involved the fighters performing approximately 70 to 75 one-minute rounds of light sparring and isolated movements, such as punches, dodges, and reactions, captured separately to allow for later editing into standard three-minute rounds matching the simulation.[5][2] No actual contact occurred, with actions staged to simulate impacts using techniques like pulled punches and added effects such as fake blood.[18] Technical execution relied on basic 1960s film equipment suited for controlled indoor settings, emphasizing multiple camera angles to capture individual fighter responses for compositing.[19] Crowd scenes and announcer commentary, voiced by figures like Rocky Graziano, were filmed separately using actors and doubles to fill out the arena atmosphere without requiring the principals' presence.[20] Sessions spanned several days to accommodate exhaustive coverage of potential scenarios, ensuring flexibility in post-production assembly once the computer's prediction was finalized.[7] Challenges arose from the fighters' disparate conditions and personalities: Marciano, retired since 1955 and out of shape despite shedding weight for the role, displayed reluctance to fully commit to aggressive actions, limiting the intensity of simulated exchanges.[7] Ali, known for his showmanship, frequently improvised taunts and flourishes, complicating adherence to the scripted sequences and necessitating additional takes.[21] Production halts occurred, including one instance where Ali demanded and received an immediate $2,000 cash payment before resuming.[7] Strict secrecy enveloped the set to preserve suspense, with limited access restricting on-site support and amplifying logistical strains over the multi-day shoot.[5]Participant Interactions
During the filming of The Super Fight in North Miami in 1969, Muhammad Ali and Rocky Marciano engaged in over 70 one-minute rounds of playacting sparring, limited to no clinching or head shots to generate footage for potential fight scenarios while minimizing injury risk.[17] Ali's superior hand speed was evident as he flicked jabs, prompting Marciano to remark, "My God, the kid is so fast," highlighting an empirical recognition of stylistic differences—Ali's agility against Marciano's relentless pressure.[17] In one exchange, Ali playfully flicked off Marciano's toupee, to which Marciano responded by trapping Ali in a corner and landing controlled shots to his arms and solar plexus, leading Ali to jokingly demand an additional $2,000 in compensation.[17] Their interactions revealed contrasting personalities: Marciano's quiet humility and conformist demeanor versus Ali's outspoken bravado, yet marked by mutual respect rather than antagonism.[17] Ali expressed confidence in his ability to prevail, stating, "He’d be hell to fight. I’d wear him at the end of my glove for 10 rounds but he’d still be coming," underscoring his prediction of wearing down Marciano's grit through superior endurance and movement.[17] Marciano, in turn, emphasized collaboration over hype, suggesting to Ali, "Wouldn’t it be great if there was something we could do, me and you together, a white guy and a black guy?" during discussions of racial divides over dinner with comedian Henny Youngman, where they explored ideas like a joint bus tour to bridge ethnic gaps while sharing grapefruit.[17] Off-camera exchanges further humanized their dynamic, with Marciano supporting Ali's refusal to join the Army and sharing stories of his Italian-American hardships, fostering a bond Ali later described as closer than with any other white fighter.[17] Playful moments included Ali shouting "Drop the Wop" during a staged knockdown and Marciano parodying Ali's mannerisms, reflecting light-hearted teasing amid the contrived action.[17] Ali reflected post-filming, "Our work was phony. But our friendship became real," indicating the sessions underscored their stylistic clash without escalating to genuine conflict.[17] Tragically, Marciano died in a plane crash on August 31, 1969, shortly after completing the shoots.[22]The Depicted Fight
Key Statistical Inputs and Assumptions
The simulation utilized an NCR-315 computer programmed with 129 variables derived from the fighters' professional records, physical measurements, and stylistic tendencies up to their respective career points in 1969.[23] Key verifiable inputs included Marciano's undefeated 49-0 record with 43 knockouts (87.8% knockout rate) and Ali's 29-0 record with 23 knockouts (79.3% knockout rate, reflecting fights through 1967 prior to his enforced layoff).[13][14] Physical disparities were quantified, such as Marciano's height of 5 feet 10.5 inches, 68-inch reach, and typical fighting weight of 185-190 pounds contrasted against Ali's 6 feet 3 inches height, 78-inch reach, and 210-215 pounds weight.[13][14]| Fighter | Height | Reach | Typical Weight | Record (Wins-KOs) | KO Rate |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rocky Marciano | 5'10.5" | 68" | 185-190 lbs | 49-0 (43 KOs) | 87.8% |
| Muhammad Ali | 6'3" | 78" | 210-215 lbs | 29-0 (23 KOs) | 79.3% |
