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Start Something
Studio album by
Lostprophets
Released12 January 2004 (AU)
2 February 2004 (UK and Asia)[1]
3 February 2004 (North America)
RecordedMarch–September 2003[2]
Studio
Genre
Length56:48 (United Kingdom)
52:43 (United States)
65:01 (Japan)
Label
ProducerEric Valentine[2]
Lostprophets chronology
The Fake Sound of Progress
(2000) 		Start Something
(2004) 		Liberation Transmission
(2006)
Singles from Start Something
  1. "Burn Burn"
    Released: 3 November 2003
  2. "Last Train Home"
    Released: 27 December 2003
  3. "Wake Up (Make a Move)"
    Released: 3 May 2004
  4. "Last Summer"
    Released: 23 August 2004
  5. "I Don't Know"
    Released: 26 October 2004
    (radio airplay)
  6. "Goodbye Tonight"
    Released: 22 November 2004

Start Something is the second studio album by the Welsh rock band Lostprophets, released on 2 February 2004 through Visible Noise in the United Kingdom and South Korea. The album was released internationally on 5 February 2004 through Columbia. The band began work on the album in 2003 after touring for support of their previous album, The Fake Sound of Progress. This is the second and last album featuring the original drummer Mike Chiplin.

Start Something was both a critical and commercial success, quickly becoming the band's most successful album. It peaked at number 33 on the Billboard 200 in the United States, and was eventually certified Gold by the RIAA.[5] Six singles were released from the album: "Burn Burn", "Last Train Home", "Wake Up (Make a Move)", "Last Summer", "Goodbye Tonight" and the radio single "I Don't Know". These singles helped Lostprophets reach mainstream popularity. The album would go on to be certified platinum by the BPI in the United Kingdom, and gold in the United States by the RIAA.[6][5]

Composition

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The album was produced by Eric Valentine, who had also produced albums from Queens of the Stone Age and Good Charlotte. The band claimed they had settled on the title to introduce their abilities on a more grand musical level as compared to their actual debut The Fake Sound of Progress, as they considered it to be more of a reworked demo. According to lead singer Ian Watkins, the title was also influenced by several friends of the band they had claimed would "love to do this and that, but never had the drive to do it".[7][8]

Prior to the beginning of the recording process, the band had befriended Hoobastank as the two bands shared a recording space in Calabasas, California. Watkins and Jamie Oliver recorded their guest appearance for the Hoobastank song Out of Control off of their 2003 album The Reason.[9]

The band cancelled their scheduled performance at the 2003 Reading and Leeds Festival to continue work on the album. Watkins claimed the band sought to finish recording, claiming "We want to make the best record possible and did not want to rush anything, unfortunately these shows are at the final stages of making the record and we felt it was more important." The Scottish rock band Biffy Clyro replaced Lostprophets at the festival.[10]

Billy Martin and Benji Madden of Good Charlotte record additional vocals on "Last Train Home".[citation needed]

The track listing varies depending on region, the track "We Are Godzilla, You Are Japan" was omitted from the North American version of the album, though versions with the track have the final two tracks "Sway" and "Outro" consolidated into one track.

The band included two additional tracks for the album's Japanese version; "Lucky You" and "Like a Fire". Despite not appearing as a track on any of the singles or on any version outside of the Japanese and original Australian release; "Lucky You" was submitted by the band for its inclusion in the Spider-Man 2 soundtrack, released on 30 June 2004 alongside the film.[11] Original pressings of the Australian release had also included "Lucky You" as the penultimate track, but it was later removed in 2005. Other recording outtakes such as "The Politics of Emotion", "Holding On", "Our Broken Hearts", and "Push Out the Jive, Bring in the Love" were scrapped from the final track listing, though they appear on several singles.[citation needed]

Artwork

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The album cover (designed by Watkins and Oliver) features a new gothic style logo with German blackletter typeface, replacing the old logo used for The Fake Sound of Progress. It would in itself be replaced for the band's next album, but featured on several of the band's singles taken from this album. Sometimes the lyrics "but even through your doubts, we will still be here", taken from "We Still Kill The Old Way",[12] are written below the logo.[13] The figure at the front of the artwork wears blue jeans, a black hoodie and a baseball cap and was jokingly thought to resemble Justin Timberlake in several humorous interviews with the band.[14] However, the person actually depicted in the photograph was Watkins, as was later clarified by bassist Stuart Richardson in 2005.[15][16]

At the time, Oliver was also an acclaimed artist with his work being displayed in several exhibitions depicting Rhondda life.[17] There are slight variations with the cover in different territories with some editions showing the shadow of the figure with wings - either angels wings or more likely bird wings. This is best depicted in an official promotional wallpaper the band released for fans.[18] The picture was shot on the 1st Street Bridge in Boyle Heights, directly east of Los Angeles,[15] where the album was recorded and mixed. Watkins claimed he regarded artwork as "just as important as the music". During a January 2010 interview, Watkins further reflected back on Lostprophets' prior artwork claiming "I remember doing the Start Something record and compiling the inlay which is a collage of two years of our lives. It was so much fun. I'd sit there for hours looking at the booklet and all the little pictures. I did that to all the albums I bought."[19]

Promotion

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Songs from the new album were first performed live on 17 August 2003 at Newport,[20] the first gig of three alongside a Birmingham date and a Manchester date, in preparation for the Reading and Leeds festival at the end of August.[21] For these gigs, "We Still Kill the Old Way" became the regular opener, whilst sets closed with "Burn Burn", with tracks from their previous album interspersed in between.[22] Kerrang noted in a live review from Manchester that "We Still Kill the Old Way" and "To Hell We Ride" were "well received" but that "the surfeit of new material leads to a comparatively muted response".[23][24] At the end of July though it was announced that the band had cancelled their appearance at Reading and Leeds, whilst still promising to play the three warm-up shows, citing that they wanted the recording of Start Something to take precedence. Ian Watkins later announced "Unfortunately these shows are at the final stages of making the record and we felt it was more important not to short change anyone."[25] The band did however support Linkin Park at Wembley Arena in London on 22 November 2003 performing eight songs, including five from the upcoming album.[26] Despite the recording process, the band performed a total of four dates in 2003.[citation needed]

The song "To Hell We Ride" made an appearance in the video game Need for Speed: Underground, released in November 2003, as a bonus feature of the game, users could unlock a custom 1999 Nissan Skyline GT-R given a custom livery with the band's logo and artwork from the upcoming album as an easter egg.[27][28]

Commercial performance

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Europe

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The album was well received in the UK, being certified Silver and later Gold by the BPI on 20 February 2004, it would go on to be certified Platinum in the UK on 14 January 2005.[6] The album debuted on the UK Albums Chart at #4 in 2004, in 2005 it reached its peak position #93 and after the release of Liberation Transmission in 2006 the album re-charted and peaked at #133.[29] The album was also well received in Germany, entering the German album charts at #51. The album's lead single "Burn Burn" became the band's first charting song in Germany, peaking at #81. "Last Train Home" had proved to become a more successful single as it peaked #48. The album also managed to chart in Finland, Austria, Ireland, France, and the mainland Eurochart upon release; the latter peaking at #15.

North America

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Upon release, the album was poorly received in Canada, only peaking at number 87 on the Canadian Albums Chart and yielding no charting singles aside from "Last Train Home", which peaked at #14 on the Canada Rock Top 30 chart on Radio & Records. Despite this; the album was positively received in the United States, being compared to American acts such as Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, and Incubus. The album's first single, "Burn Burn", had initially failed to chart in the United States; but the album's second single "Last Train Home" quickly became a hit; prompting the album to sell 117,000 copies in its first week in America.[30] "Last Train Home" had grown substantial attention in America in December 2003 through radio airplay regular MTV rotation.[31] The single quickly became the band's highest-charting single in America, prompting the band members to appear as guests on Total Request Live on 13 March 2004.[32] The single had also managed to beat fellow UK rock band The Darkness' hit single "I Believe in a Thing Called Love" (released in September 2003), charting twelve spots higher on Billboard's Mainstream Rock charts upon release in December 2003. The song became the highest-charting single of any UK rock act in the United States in 2003.[33] In mid-February 2004, Start Something peaked at #33 on the Billboard 200 becoming the band's highest charting album in the United States to date.[34] The album also reached #121 on the Billboard's Year-End Chart in the United States in December 2004.[35] To date, it is the band's only release certified by the RIAA. On 3 June 2004, the album was certified Gold by the RIAA in the United States.[5] Despite the strong response to the album's second single; "Wake Up (Make a Move)" was not as well received, though it also charted in America at #16, "I Don't Know", was also released as a radio-only single on 26 October 2004,[36] it ultimately peaked at #11 on the Hot Modern Rock Tracks chart and #24 on the Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks chart.[29][31]

Australia/New Zealand

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Despite entering the New Zealand album charts at #14, Start Something did not yield any charting singles in the country. Australia had a similarly mixed reception for the album's release as only "Burn Burn" and "Last Train Home" charted as singles respectively.[29] Regardless; Burn Burn had managed to become a minor hit in Australia, peaking at #48 in December 2003.

Streaming

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In May 2012 the album had still garnered 10.8 million plays by 640,000 listeners on Last.FM. As of May 2023, the album is still the band's most popular record following their breakup in 2013. Spotify reported that "Start Something" still receives over 60,000 monthly plays from users in the UK.[37]

Despite Watkins' conviction in 2012; the album remains purchasable internationally on Apple Music. Spotify also has the album available for play only for users in the United Kingdom and Japan. Much of the band's Visible Noise catalogue was not renewed for licensing to be streamed in markets such as North America, Australia, or South Korea after 2012.[38]

Critical reception

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Professional ratings
Aggregate scores
SourceRating
Metacritic70/100[39]
Review scores
SourceRating
AllMusicStarStar[40]
Drowned in Sound8/10[41]
entertainment.ieStarStarStarStar[42]
Entertainment WeeklyB[43]
IGN7.1/10[44]
Kerrang!StarStarStarStarStar[citation needed]
MelodicStarStarStarStarHalf star [45]
NME8/10[46]
Rolling StoneStarStarStar[47]
Sputnikmusic3.5/5[48]

The album received mostly positive reviews from music critics. At Metacritic, which assigns a normalized rating out of 100 to reviews from mainstream critics, the album has received an average score of 70, based on 13 reviews.[39]

Johnny Loftus from AllMusic gave the album a negative review, claiming that they had too big of a resemblance to American bands such as Faith No More, Incubus and Hoobastank; Loftus gave the album 2 out of 5 stars.[40] He noted a more melodic singing style on the album when compared to The Fake Sound of Progress, commenting that "the Mike Patton scream Prophets vocalist Ian Watkins perfected on 2001's Fake Sound of Progress has — like it did for Brandon Boyd and Doug Robb — mellowed into a blandly earnest yawp capable of keeping things thick enough for the dudes but still rife with those heartfelt intakes of breath that the ladies love."[40] In his July 2004 review, Jason MacNeil of PopMatters also considered the album to be derivative of American bands, labelling the track "I Don't Know" as "Incubus-by-numbers", adding that on the title track "Faith No More is also brought back from the dead as the piano tinkling surpasses the guitars."[49]

Rolling Stone reviewer Kirk Miller was more positive to the album and called it a "kick-ass tribute" because of its resemblance to Faith No More, and gave the album 3 out of 5 stars.[47] Justin Kownacki from Splendid said "this is one of those finely-polished discs that should have no trouble finding a huge audience" and was more over positive to the album.[50]

Drowned in Sound reviewer Gen Williams said "It's a really really really really really REALLY great pop-metal explosion." and continued to say "Burn Burn" boasted "the catchiest hook this side of Linkin Park" and that the alleged Adamski rip-off was justified because of the song's quality, and giving the album 8 out of 10 stars.[41]

Q called it "Unashamedly Epic."[citation needed] NME said "This is something genuinely fresh... here friends, is the real sound of progress (reference to the band's previous effort, The Fake Sound of Progress)" and Observer Music Monthly credited Start Something on being "A hybrid of big rock choruses, powerful rhythms and a neat pop edge to their rock artillery."[citation needed] Entertainment Weekly gave the album a B and said that Lostprophets "mostly live up to that high standard by juxtaposing gnarly metal riffs with quirky electronic interludes. Only the occasional lapse into Linkin Park-style self-indulgence drags them down."[39][43]

It was ranked seventh in Kerrang! magazine's Albums of the Year 2004 list.[51] In a readers poll titled Top 100 British Rock Albums the album was ranked eighteenth, and was the third highest of the 2000s, however the poll was taken in February 2005 whilst the album was still fresh in the mind for many.[52]

In 2005, Start Something was ranked number 364 in Rock Hard magazine's book The 500 Greatest Rock & Metal Albums of All Time.[53] Rock Sound magazine ranked the album eighth on their Critics' Poll 2004, the highest placing for a British band.[54]

Tour

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To promote the album, the band toured North America, Europe, Asia and Oceania. Four months before the release of Start Something the band embarked on a tour in support. The tour began in the United Kingdom.[55] The band also announced dates, opening for Linkin Park on their UK arena tour for select dates in October 2003.[56] The band also announced performances at the NME Award show at the London Astoria and later announced further UK dates in Glasgow, Newcastle and Manchester among others.[57] The concert in the London Astoria ended up being sold out.[58]

The band took part in the second European leg of Metallica's Madly in Anger with the World Tour alongside Slipknot and Godsmack. Lostprophets were billed as the opening act for European dates stretching from 26 May, to 4 July 2004. Though their own touring commitments forced them to drop from the tour with Metallica prior to the second North American leg in August as they were also obligated to perform in the United States later that month.

The North American leg of the tour began on 19 March 2004, lasting until 18 December.[59] Lostprophets would also take part of MTV's Campus Invasion Tour, in support for headliners Hoobastank, beginning at the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, Tennessee.[60] In May 2004 the band performed in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada for a one night show.[61] The band announced further dates in New Zealand and Australia as a part of the Big Day Out festival, and dates in Asia were later announced, marking the band's first performance in Japan.[61] The band returned to the UK in November 2004 as their own headliners, and capped off their tour with 10 additional American dates, ultimately ending the tour in Cleveland, Ohio on 18 December 2004.[62][63]

Prior to 2013, Start Something was still the band's most popular album with just over 35% of songs coming from that album across all their performances from 2004 to 2012.[64][65] During the band's 2012 tour in support of their album Weapons, the band announced a homecoming show at Cardiff's Motorpoint Arena where the album was played in its entirety.[66][67][68] Stuart Richardson said "We wrote the record in Caerphilly. Start Something is when we kind of came into our own as a band, and Cardiff is where we came into our own as people". The performance sold out with a crowd of 10,000 people.[69][70][71][72]

Tour dates

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Date City Country Venue
'03-'04 Meteora World Tour (UK Leg In Support of Linkin Park)
10 October 2003 Birmingham United Kingdom Birmingham Arena
28 October 2003 Glasgow The Garage
29 October 2003 Birmingham O2 Academy Birmingham
20 November 2003 Glasgow SECC Centre
21 November 2003 Manchester Manchester Arena
22 November 2003 London OVO Wembley Arena
24 November 2003 Birmingham O2 Academy Birmingham
25 November 2003 Cardiff Cardiff International Arena
Date City Country Venue
Start Something World Tour (Leg I)
16 January 2004 Auckland New Zealand Big Day Out '04
18 January 2004 Gold Coast, Queensland Australia
23 January 2004
26 January 2004 Melbourne
30 January 2004 Adelaide
3 February 2004 New York City United States Irving Plaza
7 February 2004 Glasgow United Kingdom Queen Margaret Union
8 February 2004 Newcastle upon Tyne Newcastle University
9 February 2004 London Astoria
10 February 2004 Glasgow Queen Margaret Union
11 February 2004 Norwich University of East Anglia
12 February 2004 Birmingham Carling Academy
13 February 2004 Portsmouth Pyramids Centre
15 February 2004 Leeds Leeds Metropolitan University
16 February 2004 Manchester University of Manchester
17 February 2004 Nottingham Rock City
19 February 2004 Liverpool O2 Arena Liverpool
20 February 2004 Cardiff Great Hall Cardiff
22 February 2004 Brixton Brixton Academy
8 March 2004 Amsterdam The Netherlands The Max, Melkweg
Date City Country Venue
MTV Campus Invasion Tour
19 March 2004 Chattanooga, Tennessee United States University of Tennessee at Chattanooga
26 March 2004 Ashland, Ohio Ashland University
29 March 2004 Alfred, New York Alfred University
31 March 2004 Blacksburg, Virginia Virginia Tech
2 April 2004 Jackson, Mississippi University of Mississippi
6 April 2004 Miami, Florida Florida International University
7 April 2004 Orlando, Florida University of Central Florida
8 April 2004 Fort Myers, Florida Florida Gulf Coast University
15 April 2004 San Angelo, Texas Angelo State University
22 April 2004 DeKalb, Illinois Northern University
23 April 2004 Buffalo, New York University at Buffalo
24 April 2004 Norfolk, Virginia Old Dominion University
Date City Country Venue
Madly in Anger with the World Tour (European supporting act for Metallica)
26 May 2004 Copenhagen Denmark Parken Stadium
28 May 2004 Helsinki Finland Helsinki Olympic Stadium
30 May 2004 Gothenburg Sweden Ullevi
31 May 2004 Chorzów Poland Silesian Stadium
2 June 2004 Glasgow Scotland Glasgow Green
4 June 2004 Nürburg Germany Rock Am Ring
6 June 2004 Castle Donington England Donington Park
8 June 2004 Ludwigshafen Germany Südweststadion
10 June 2004 Gelsenkirchen Arena AufSchalke
11 June 2004 Vienna Austria Flugfeld Civitas Nova
13 June 2004 Munich Germany Olympiastadion
15 June 2004 Belgrade Serbia and Montenegro Partizan Stadium
16 June 2004 Bremen Germany Weser-Stadion
18 June 2004 Zürich Switzerland Letzigrund
19 June 2004 Zaragoza Spain La Romareda
21 June 2004 Amsterdam Netherlands Amsterdam Arena
23 June 2004 Paris France Parc des Princes
25 June 2004 Dublin Ireland RDS Arena
29 June 2004 Padua Italy Stadio Euganeo
1 July 2004 Prague Czech Republic T-Mobile Park Kolbenova
2 July 2004 Werchter Belgium Rock Werchter
Date City Country Venue
Start Something World Tour (Leg II)
15 July 2004 Washington D.C. United States 9:30 Club
16 July 2004 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Trocadero Theatre
17 July 2004 Charlotte, North Carolina Tremont Music Hall
21 July 2004 Orlando, Florida Hard Rock Live Orlando
25 July 2004 Cleveland, Ohio The Odeon
27 July 2004 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Rock Club
28 July 2004 Pontiac, Michigan Clutch Cargo's
31 July 2004 Minneapolis, Minnesota The Quest Club
3 August 2004 St. Louis, Missouri Mississippi Nights
8 August 2004 Tokyo Japan Summer Sonic 2004
13 August 2004 Boston, Massachusetts United States The Axis
14 August 2004 Sayreville, New Jersey Starland Ballroom
27 August 2004 Wetherby United Kingdom Reading Festival 2004
29 August 2004 Leeds Leeds Festival
19 September 2004 Birmingham BBC Radio 1 Big Weekend
22 September 2004 Grand Prairie, Texas United States Texas Trust CU Theatre at Grand Prairie
24 September 2004 Denver, Colorado The Filmore
25 September 2004 Salt Lake City, Utah X96 Big Ass Show
26 September 2004 Las Vegas, Nevada House of Blues Las Vegas at Mandalay Bay
28 September 2004 Anaheim, California City National Grove of Anaheim
2 October 2004 Tucson, Arizona Tucson Electric Park
3 October 2004 Los Angeles, California The Wiltern
4 October 2004 Davis, California Freeborn Hall, UC Davis
5 October 2004 San Francisco, California The Warfield Theatre
9 October 2004 Portland, Oregon Roseland Theater
13 October 2004 Kansas City, Missouri Uptown Theater
14 October 2004 Minneapolis, Minnesota Quest Club
15 October 2004 Milwaukee, Wisconsin The Eagles Club
16 October 2004 Chicago, Illinois Congress Theater
19 October 2004 Toronto Canada Kool Haus
21 October 2004 Detroit, Michigan United States The Fillmore Detroit
22 October 2004 Cleveland, Ohio Agora Ballroom
23 October 2004 Belle Vernon, Pennsylvania Ice Garden Arena
24 October 2004 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Franklin Music Hall
26 October 2004 New York City Roseland Ballroom
27 October 2004 Boston, Massachusetts Avalon
1 November 2004 Nashville, Tennessee Rockettown
13 November 2004 Glasgow United Kingdom SECC Glasgow Hall 4
14 November 2004 Newcastle upon Tyne Northumbria University
20 November 2004 Manchester O2 Apollo Manchester
21 November 2004 Cardiff Cardiff International Arena
23 November 2004 Leeds The Reflectory
24 November 2004 Wolverhampton Civic Arena
28 November 2004 Belfast Ulster Hall
30 November 2004 Bridgeport, Connecticut United States MJ Nesheiwat Convention Center
4 December 2004 West Palm Beach, Florida Buzz Bake Sale 04
5 December 2004 Clearwater, Florida Coachman Park
7 December 2004 Lake Buena Vista, Florida House of Blues Buena Vista
8 December 2004 Pensacola, Florida Pensacola Bay Center
9 December 2004 New Orleans, Louisiana House of Blues New Orleans
12 December 2004 Dallas, Texas 2513 Deep Ellum
16 December 2004 St. Louis, Missouri The Pageant
17 December 2004 Cincinnati, Ohio Bogart's
18 December 2004 Cleveland, Ohio House of Blues Cleveland

Legacy

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In June 2012 the album was entered into Rock Sound magazine's Hall of Fame with features on how the band look back on the album and how it has influenced others.[73] Rock Sound said that the album made the band into "one of our greatest rock commodities" and called it a "defining record for the UK rock scene as a whole".[74] Lee Gaze stated "Start Something is the greatest hits of what Lostprophets do". Aled Phillips of Kids in Glass Houses said "it was a turning point for a lot of bands" but also that "everyone's jeans got tighter and started wearing Nike Dunks - it was a cultural shift. With them it was never just about the music, everybody got swept up in the whole aesthetic as well".[75] Five British rock records - All Our Kings Are Dead, We Are the Dynamite, World Record, Free and Hold Me Down - were all cited as being heavily influenced by Start Something.[74]

BBC Wales called the album a "modern rock classic" in retrospect[76] and BBC Music called it a "UK rock classic".[77] Whilst WalesOnline noted how the album had been "a galvanising force in the Welsh rock scene".[78] The BBC also produced a radio programme with Bethan Elfyn that aired on BBC Radio 1 in May 2010, which featured the Stereophonics, Manic Street Preachers, Funeral for a Friend and The Blackout amongst others, and titled it "Start Something: The Story of South Wales Rock" in honour of the album.[79][80] The album was included in Rock Sound's 101 Modern Classics list at number 14.[81]

The album has sold 2.5 million copies worldwide to date; according to the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC).[82]

Awards

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Kerrang! Awards
Year Nominee / work Award Result
2004 Start Something[83] Best Album Nominated
2004 Last Train Home[84] Best Single Won
Metal Hammer Awards
Year Nominee / work Award Result
2004 Lostprophets for Start Something tour[85] Best Live Act Nominated

Accolades

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Publication Accolade Recording Year Rank
Kerrang! Albums of the Year[51] - 2004 7th
Kerrang! 666 Songs You Must Own[86] Burn Burn & Last Train Home 2005 *
Kerrang! The Rock 100[87] Last Train Home 2012 *
Kerrang! The 50 Best Albums of the 21st Century[88] - 2009 19th
Rock Sound Critic' Poll[54] - 2004 8th
Metal Hammer Albums of 2004[89] - 2004 10th
Q Recordings of the Year[90] - 2004 32nd
Q Readers Best Tracks of the Year[91] Last Summer 2004 82nd
Q Ultimate Music Collection[92] Burn Burn 2005 *
Classic Rock End of Year Best Albums[93] - 2004 13th
Rock Sound Hall of Fame Records[94] - 2012 *

(*) designates unordered lists.

Track listing

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All lyrics written by Ian Watkins, all music composed by Lostprophets.

Personnel

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Credits for Start Something adapted from liner notes.[2]

Production

Charts

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Chart Position
Australian Albums Chart[96] 66
Austrian Albums Charts[97] 60
Canadian Albums (Billboard)[98] 87
European Top 100 Albums[99] 15
Finnish Albums Chart[100] 46
French Albums Charts[101] 69
German Albums Chart[102] 51
Irish Album Charts[103] 61
Japanese Albums Chart[104] 34
New Zealand Album Charts[105] 14
UK Album Charts[29] 4
US Billboard 200[34] 33
US Billboard Comprehensive Albums[35] 33

Certifications

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Region Certification Certified units/sales
United Kingdom (BPI)[6] Platinum 300,000^
United States (RIAA)[5] Gold 500,000^

^ Shipments figures based on certification alone.

References

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Start Something is the second studio album by the Welsh rock band , released on 2 February 2004 in the United Kingdom by Visible Noise and on 3 February 2004 in the United States by . Produced by at Barefoot Studios in , the album marks a shift from the heavier influences of their debut The Fake Sound of Progress (2000) toward a more accessible and sound, incorporating melodic hooks, anthemic choruses, and elements of . The album consists of 13 tracks, including standout singles such as "Last Train Home", "Burn Burn", "Wake Up (Make a Move)", "Last Summer", "Goodbye Tonight", and the radio single "I Don't Know". Key songs like "Last Train Home" and "Burn Burn" propelled the album's commercial success, with the former peaking at number 8 on the UK Singles Chart and number 1 on the US Alternative Songs chart and the latter peaking at number 17 on the UK Singles Chart. Start Something debuted at number 4 on the , spending 40 weeks in the Top 100, and topped both the UK Rock & Metal Albums Chart and the Independent Albums Chart for extended periods. In the , it entered the at number 33 with first-week sales of 36,000 copies and ultimately sold over 500,000 units, earning certification. Critically, Start Something garnered generally favorable reviews for its polished production and catchy songwriting, earning a score of 70 out of 100 based on professional critiques. Outlets praised its energetic tracks and Valentine's production, which enhanced the band's dynamic range, though some noted occasional formulaic elements reminiscent of contemporaries like . The album solidified Lostprophets' position in the early rock scene, achieving high chart placements worldwide and contributing to the band's international breakthrough before their subsequent releases. Lostprophets disbanded in after lead singer Ian Watkins was convicted of child sex offences. Watkins died in prison in October 2024.

Background and recording

Development

Following the success of their debut album in 2000, which achieved underground acclaim in the UK and gained wider traction after a remixed US release in 2001 via , Lostprophets embarked on extensive touring throughout 2002, including support slots for major acts that honed their live performance skills and exposed them to broader rock audiences. This period, combined with the momentum from their 2000 EP , motivated the band to transition toward a more mature and refined sound for their sophomore effort, moving beyond the raw energy of their initial release to incorporate greater emotional depth and production polish. Songwriting for Start Something commenced in early 2003, with the band retreating to their native to focus intensely on new material amid rumors of creative challenges, including a reported case of that led to the cancellation of appearances at the later that year. Initial demos were captured in home studios, allowing the group—hailing from —to experiment freely before advancing to professional production. During these sessions, influences from nu-metal and contemporaries like and played a key role, reflecting the band's prior experiences opening for those acts on tour and shaping a blend of aggressive riffs, melodic hooks, and introspective lyrics. Specific tracks emerged from personal and experiential themes rooted in the band's life and interpersonal dynamics. For instance, "Last Train Home" draws inspiration from strained relationships, using the of missing a final departure as a for and fleeting opportunities in love and life. Similarly, "Burn Burn" captures a sense of defiance through its high-energy structure and confrontational lyrics. These origins underscore the album's overarching theme of proactive change and seizing control amid adversity.

Recording sessions

The recording sessions for Start Something took place at Barefoot Studios in from March to September 2003. Eric Valentine, known for his production work with Queens of the Stone Age, oversaw the sessions and handled mixing.

Composition and artwork

Musical style

Start Something represents a fusion of and nu-metal, incorporating melodies and subtle electronic elements that align with early 2000s rock trends toward accessible aggression and melodic hooks. The album's sound shifts from the raw nu-metal edges of the band's debut to a more polished, radio-oriented intensity, featuring prominent guitar riffs while retaining dynamic shifts between heavy verses and soaring choruses. This evolution draws from influences like 1980s metal headbanging riffs and vocal stylings, creating a grandiose rock palette suitable for mainstream appeal. The instrumentation centers on dual guitars handled by and Mike Lewis, delivering riff-driven foundations with high-gain tones; Stuart Richardson's bass provides groovy underpinnings, while Mike Chiplin's drumming adds rhythmic drive and breakdowns. contributes keyboards and synths, enhancing atmospheric layers in tracks like "To Hell We Ride," where electronic textures build tension amid the rock core. Song structures predominantly employ verse-chorus formats punctuated by heavy breakdowns and anthemic builds, as exemplified in "We Still Kill the Old Way," which opens with aggressive riff-based verses before exploding into melodic, crowd-chanting choruses. Tracks like "Burn Burn" similarly balance fast-paced punk energy with nu-metal heaviness, using screaming interludes and hooky refrains to maintain momentum. Eric Valentine's production imparts a radio-friendly sheen through compression on drums and guitars via tools like the Universal Audio 1176, adding density and clarity to the mix. He innovated with high-gain heavy guitar sounds using single-coil pickups on instruments like the Les Paul Junior and Jazzmaster, mitigating hum by enclosing the guitars in a custom Faraday cage during recording to preserve sustain without noise interference. This approach contrasts the raw, unpolished energy of the band's early live demos, refining their sound for broader commercial viability while preserving the visceral rock essence.

Artwork and packaging

The cover art for Start Something depicts an open stretching into the distance, evoking themes of movement and transition that align with the album's title and lyrical motifs of renewal. Illustrations for the artwork were created by , while photography credits include Chapman Baehler, Lawrence Watson, and contributions from the band members themselves. The standard physical packaging consists of a jewel case with a clear , featuring a 14-page fold-out booklet that incorporates , additional artwork, and band photographs, along with a double-sided back . Multiple editions were issued to accommodate regional markets, including an version for the and with interactive elements, a standard for the release on , and a limited Japanese edition combining the with a bonus DVD containing video content. A reissue appeared in , maintaining the core packaging design while updating production for renewed distribution.

Release and promotion

Singles

The lead single from Start Something, "Burn Burn", was released on November 3, 2003, in and vinyl formats, peaking at number 17 on the UK Singles Chart and spending three weeks in the top 40. The track featured energetic rock elements typical of the album, with promotional efforts including radio play that helped build anticipation ahead of the full release. "Last Train Home" followed as the second single on December 27, 2003, available in singles, 7-inch vinyl, and promo formats, reaching number 8 on the UK Singles Chart over nine weeks. B-sides included an acoustic version of "," while the music video, directed by Brian Weber, depicted the band performing in a stylized setting and received regular rotation on , significantly boosting the album's visibility.) Subsequent releases included "Wake Up (Make a Move)" on May 3, 2004, which charted at number 18 in the UK for four weeks and was issued in and vinyl editions featuring the title track alongside album cuts. Later singles like "Last Summer" (peaking at number 13) and "Goodbye Tonight" (number 42) continued the promotion through similar physical formats, with digital availability emerging via platforms like by 2005 to extend reach. "I Don't Know" was released as a radio single in the United States in October 2004, reaching number 11 on the Alternative Songs chart. These efforts collectively drove early buzz for Start Something through targeted video and radio exposure.

Marketing campaign

The marketing campaign for Start Something leveraged the partnership between Visible Noise Records in the UK and Columbia Records in the United States to build pre-release anticipation through targeted radio airplay and media exposure. In the UK, tracks from the album received significant rotation on BBC Radio 1 as part of promotional efforts. In the US, Columbia focused on modern rock radio outlets, where the lead single "Last Train Home" became the number-one most-added track at the format and secured early adds at influential stations like KROQ in Los Angeles, alongside a music video directed by Brian Scott Weber that aired on MTV2 to drive crossover appeal. Promotional events emphasized fan engagement in the lead-up to the 2004 release. The band held an in-store signing session at on in on February 5, 2004, allowing fans to meet members including vocalist Ian Watkins and obtain autographed copies of the album shortly after its launch. This was complemented by a headline tour spanning 10 dates in February, including an exclusive performance at the show at 's Astoria on February 9, which served as a high-profile platform to showcase material from the album. Media coverage amplified the campaign's reach, with a three-page feature on the band in Kerrang! magazine's issue 989, dated January 24, 2004, highlighting the album's production and singles ahead of release. Television promotion included appearances on Top of the Pops to perform singles such as "Last Train Home" on the February 6, 2004, episode, tying into the broader rollout of video content for key tracks. The campaign extended internationally with tour tie-ins across in 2004, aligning live shows with regional album distribution to capitalize on the band's growing post-Fake Sound of Progress fanbase. In , early licensing deals facilitated a January 15, 2004, release in through , featuring three bonus tracks—"Lucky You," "Like a Fire," and "Sway"—to attract local audiences and support subsequent promotional activities.

Commercial performance

Chart performance

Start Something debuted at number 4 on the UK Albums Chart on February 14, 2004, marking the band's highest charting album in their home country at the time, and spent a total of 40 weeks on the chart. The album maintained strong presence, logging 21 weeks initially from its debut through July 2004, followed by additional runs totaling 19 more weeks later that year and into 2005. It received a notable boost in chart performance following the release of the single "Last Train Home" in late 2003, which helped sustain its momentum into the new year. For the year-end UK Albums Chart in 2004, it ranked at number 64. In the United States, the album entered the at number 33 in February 2004, representing Lostprophets' breakthrough on the main albums chart, and remained on the listing for 20 weeks. The album achieved moderate success across other international markets. In , it peaked at number 14 on the Top 40 Albums chart and charted for 6 weeks. In , Start Something reached a high of number 51 on the Official German Albums Chart, spending 10 weeks in total. saw it enter the Top Albums chart at number 69, where it held for 1 week at its peak and 15 weeks overall.
CountryPeak PositionWeeks on ChartSource
440Official Charts Company
United States (Billboard 200)3320
146Recorded Music NZ
5110GfK Entertainment
6915SNEP

Sales and certifications

Start Something achieved significant commercial success, selling over 2.5 million copies worldwide by 2006. In the , the album surpassed 300,000 units sold, earning a gold certification from the (BPI) in March 2004 and later platinum status for 600,000 shipments. In the United States, it was certified by the (RIAA) in 2005 after 500,000 units shipped, according to label reports and Nielsen SoundScan data.

Critical reception

Contemporary reviews

Upon its release in , Start Something garnered generally positive reviews from music critics, who highlighted its energetic anthems and accessible songwriting as a step forward from the band's raw debut, though some faulted its polished production for diluting the edge. The album earned an aggregate score of 70/100 on , based on 13 reviews, underscoring a consensus on its improved hooks and radio-friendly appeal contrasted with the debut's grittier sound. Positive assessments dominated UK rock publications. NME awarded 8/10, commending the "infectious hooks" that made tracks like "Last Train Home" stand out as glam-infused metal anthems. Kerrang! gave it a perfect 5/5, hailing it as the band's breakthrough with "explosive energy" across its runtime. AllMusic rated it 4/5, praising the relentless drive and "high-octane" performances that captured the band's live intensity. Q magazine described it as "a polished evolution," appreciating how producer Eric Valentine refined the sound without sacrificing dynamism. Criticisms focused on perceived genericism and overproduction. Rolling Stone assigned 2.5/5, critiquing it as "generic nu-metal" that borrowed too heavily from Faith No More and contemporaries without innovation. Drowned in Sound scored it 6/10, noting the glossy sheen made some tracks feel overproduced and less visceral than the debut's rawness. Overall, reviewers appreciated the album's accessibility for broadening the band's appeal, though it divided opinions on whether the evolution enhanced or softened their identity.

Retrospective assessments

Following the 2013 conviction of lead singer Ian Watkins for child sex offenses, retrospective assessments of Start Something have been heavily influenced by ethical considerations surrounding the separation of from the . Many fans and critics have grappled with the album's legacy, leading to widespread boycott calls that temporarily removed ' catalog from streaming platforms like . Despite this, the album's streams have persisted into the , with the band's music reinstated on in 2024 under arrangements ensuring no royalties reach Watkins, as confirmed by guitarist . On October 11, 2025, Watkins died from stab wounds sustained in an attack at HMP Wakefield prison, where he was serving a 29-year sentence, prompting renewed online debates and media coverage about the band's music and its cultural place amid the . User-generated ratings reflect this ambivalence; as of late 2025, Start Something holds an average score of 2.89 out of 5 on , based on over 1,280 reviews, with many users noting the difficulty of evaluating the music independently of the scandal. Recent reviewer comments on the site emphasize how Watkins' crimes overshadow the album's nu-metal and elements, though some praise its hooks and production as emblematic of early rock. Academic analyses have explored the broader cultural fallout, including a 2023 study in Convergence: The International Journal of Research into Technologies that examined fan responses to Watkins' as a case of participatory and idol cancellation in online communities. In the , podcasts and online discussions, such as those on Reddit's r/progmetal and threads, frequently cite as a quintessential example in debates over consuming art by disgraced creators, highlighting tensions between the album's energetic singles and the band's tainted history.

Touring

Concert setlists

The Start Something Tour in 2004 primarily supported the album's release, with setlists drawing heavily from its tracks while incorporating selections from the band's 2000 debut, , to maintain audience engagement. Full-length headline shows typically averaged 18 songs, centering on all singles from Start Something—"Last Train Home," "Wake Up (Make a Move)," "Burn Burn," "Last Summer," "Goodbye Tonight," and radio single "I Don't Know"—plus non-single album cuts like "Sway" and "." This structure allowed the band to promote the new material while leveraging established hits for dynamic pacing, often opening with high-energy album tracks and building to anthemic closers. Data from over 130 documented performances indicates that Start Something songs comprised roughly 60% of the repertoire, reflecting the tour's promotional focus. A typical full setlist from the tour exemplifies this balance:
  1. We Still Kill the Old Way
  2. To Hell We Ride
  4. The Handsome Life of Swing
  5. Wake Up (Make a Move)
  6. ...And She Told Me to Leave
  7. Still Laughing
  9. Kobrakai
  10. Last Train Home
  11. Sway
  12. Hello Again
  13. I Don't Know
  15. Goodbye Tonight
  16. Last Summer
  17. Burn Burn
This ordering progressed from aggressive openers to mid-set builds with singles, culminating in the album's title track as a rousing finale. Setlist variations emerged based on regional and event contexts. In the US leg, performances occasionally extended to include additional tracks from the debut album, such as extended encores emphasizing "Last Train Home" to connect with American audiences familiar with earlier material. Festival appearances, like the band's August 29, 2004, set at Reading Festival, were shortened to about 10 tracks, prioritizing hits including "We Still Kill the Old Way," "To Hell We Ride," "Wake Up (Make a Move)," "Last Summer," "Sway," "Last Train Home," and "Start Something" for broader appeal within time constraints. Frontman Ian Watkins frequently incorporated crowd interaction, such as leading sing-alongs during "Burn Burn" to amplify its communal energy, a staple across tour dates. Encores often revolved around "Last Train Home," fostering extended audience participation and closing on an uplifting note.

Tour incidents

During the 2004 UK arena tour supporting Start Something, Lostprophets played multiple sold-out shows, including two nights at the Apollo in . The tour also culminated in a sold-out performance at on November 21, drawing a crowd of around 5,000 fans. These successes highlighted the band's rising popularity but were not without challenges, as the demanding schedule contributed to emerging internal strains. Frontman Ian Watkins' energetic and provocative on-stage presence, including crowd interactions and physical stunts, drew media attention but also amplified the physical toll of the tour.

Legacy

Cultural impact

The release of Start Something played a significant role in elevating the visibility of the Welsh rock scene during the early , contributing to a surge in heavy rock bands emerging from . Alongside contemporaries like , ' success with the album helped pave the way for subsequent acts in the , fostering a vibrant local ecosystem centered in areas like and . The album solidified Lostprophets' international fanbase, particularly among younger audiences drawn to and . Tracks from Start Something, such as "Last Train Home," appeared in popular video games like (2004), exposing the band's music to global gaming communities and broadening their appeal beyond traditional radio and play. This integration into helped cultivate a dedicated following that persisted through the decade, even as the band's profile evolved. In terms of media and cultural resonance, songs from the album featured in sports and racing video games, including "Burn Burn" in FIFA Football 2004 and "To Hell We Ride" in Need for Speed: Underground (2003), embedding Lostprophets' sound within youth-oriented entertainment. While the band's later controversies have overshadowed much of their legacy, Start Something received critical nods, including a win for "Last Train Home" as Best Single at the 2004 Kerrang! Awards and nominations for Best British Band at the same event. Despite these achievements, the enduring cultural discussion around Start Something has been complicated by retrospective reappraisals tied to the band's scandals.

Reappraisal and controversies

The dissolution of in October 2013 stemmed directly from frontman Ian Watkins' arrest in December 2012 on multiple child sexual exploitation charges, culminating in his guilty plea to 13 offenses—including the attempted rape of a baby—and a 35-year sentence in December 2013. The remaining members expressed profound shock and betrayal, stating they had no prior knowledge of the crimes and could no longer continue as a band. This fallout immediately tainted the group's legacy, with Start Something—their 2004 breakthrough —facing scrutiny as a product inextricably linked to Watkins' depravity. In the immediate aftermath, the scandal prompted the removal of ' catalog from physical retailers; , for instance, pulled all albums from its 140 stores shortly after Watkins' guilty plea. While streaming availability persisted initially, the controversy extended to digital platforms in subsequent years, sparking debates over artist separation and ; by 2024, the music had been restored to services like amid ongoing ethical discussions. Royalties from these streams do not benefit Watkins, as confirmed by former members, though the band's management dissolution in 2015 ensured he received no further payouts from pre-scandal assets. Reappraisal in the 2020s has centered on distinguishing the non-Watkins members' instrumental and creative roles from the frontman's actions, with outlets emphasizing their continued output through —their post-Lostprophets project, which released Permanence in 2015 and in 2022. Guitarist and bassist Stuart Richardson, in particular, have been credited for driving the band's early sound, including Start Something's nu-metal-infused rock anthems, while former members like Mike Lewis and drummer Luke Johnson pursued separate ventures, such as Johnson's work with Lowlives. However, the album remains a "tainted classic" in broader discourse, with critics and fans grappling over its playlist inclusion given Watkins' irremovable vocal presence. Watkins' death on October 11, , from injuries sustained in a attack, reignited controversies, prompting renewed examinations of the band's impact and the "voiceless" plight of its surviving members, who have described the scandal as an enduring shadow over their careers. No lawsuits against the label for royalties have materialized amid these events, but the episode has fueled calls for industry reforms on handling artist misconduct.

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